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the smoke radio

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for the masses headline additional july

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8 1947

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the army air force's has announced that

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a flying disk has been found and is now

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in the possession of the army

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if the game is rigged change the game

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game changer

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i occasionally think how quickly our

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differences worldwide

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would vanish if we were facing an alien

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this is fade to black with your host

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jimmy church

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on the game changer radio network and

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kgra

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i need your help to get to the year

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1985.

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you're listening to fate to flag with

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good evening

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bespoke radio

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for the masses

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how you doing how you doing tonight

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tuesday december 29

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364 days into the new year

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only two days left

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we are live from a bunker somewhere in

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the middle of beautiful downtown burbank

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and i would like to welcome everybody

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listening all around the world

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all across the united states hither and

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tether to and fro back and forth up and

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down east and west

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north and south far

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and near this is spade to black for kjcr

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the game changer network and kgra the

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planets

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i'm your host jimmy church what is

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cracking everybody how you doing

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how you doing

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all right it's cold and crispy here in

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yeah i think that today we hit about

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60 degrees 50 degrees 60 degrees which

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that was at noon right now we've got

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snow in the mountains

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here in burbank and uh yeah

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yeah got some snow last night and uh

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it's cold

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i don't mean to make you upset but for

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us it's cold you know everything's

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i'm gonna say it's probably 40 you know

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it's crisp

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okay tonight grant cameron

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oh man you know we're so we're so

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blessed here

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we uh uh have conversations with the

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best and the brightest

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uh all around the world on every subject

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like the greatest

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greatest thing ever so grant is here

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tonight we're going to be talking about

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i'm going to pick his brain

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on uh the biggest stories of

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uh our community for 2020

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and and and we'll see if i can catch

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grandchildren you know i don't know much

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about that case

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we'll see we'll see if i can make that

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happen all right

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and so we'll do that now we're going to

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be talking about

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what's going on over at ttsa i've chosen

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the word downfall

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that's right the downfall of

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uh the funding of the uap task force

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the downfall of ttsa and why would i why

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would i use that word well

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look when when you're three

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form the company with you i'm talking

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about of course chris mellon louis

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elizondo

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and and steve justice um your top three

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the stars of your tv show all of that

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right there and they help you start the

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and uh three years later

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they choose to split choose to bail

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you're not going to bail on the company

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that you started if things

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things are great things are taken off

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you're not going to quit you're only

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going to quit because there's no

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future that is why

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i call it the downfall of ttsa you can

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any way you like okay that's that's up

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i get it and then there is tomorrow

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night

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our final show of the year with

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dr steven greer okay so

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and then it's new year's eve and then

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it's new year's and then it's 2021

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rivermooncoffee.com that's right

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follow me on twitter at j church radio

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follow me right there you never know

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what i'm going to tweet

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that's right follow me on twitter at j

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church

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radio hashtag f2b

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is the sandbox in twitter and

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it's right in front of me each night on

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the show

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and of course hashtag f2bq is a fade to

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block questions

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uh two chat rooms open one over at

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spreaker one over at kg ra the planet

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the kgra just launched a new website so

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i haven't i hope they have a chat room

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does anybody know does anybody know

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somebody uh

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somebody tweet me that kgra has a chat

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so i now be they've got a brand new

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i was over checking it out today it's

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email is jimmy jimmychurchradio.com

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uh i want to uh uh give a quick shout

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out to

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all of the winners of the fade to black

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um we sent out uh

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that went out over the weekend with a

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special code for everybody

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the majority have already signed up so

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welcome and there you go uh there are

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i don't know what's going on with with

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i just can't figure that part out i

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think uh uh our email is in a spam

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so if you're one of those two check your

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spam folder uh i keep replying back to

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your emails and

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and you keep sending me back stuff so i

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it just doesn't make any sense to me or

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um including drew and then there are

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three that didn't respond two that

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got back to me today so if you're

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listening to the show

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we'll get you your codes tomorrow and

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then there

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is one last one one straggler

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and uh if they haven't reached out to me

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by tomorrow i will say

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their name on the air

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yep i just there's your heads up man

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there's your warning so

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uh that last straggler

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doesn't respond ah i would just love to

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embarrass somebody tomorrow on the air

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all right

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tonight grant cameron is here it's going

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to be a great show uh really looking

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i'm like uh dude uh e i i i gotta start

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and uh so i think everything's gonna be

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uh he's having issues hearing me so it's

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gonna be really funny

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what's gonna go down here in about 20

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minutes but grant cameron is here

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and of course tomorrow night our last

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show of the year dr stephen greer

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let's get to the breaking news a

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it's the first strain in the united

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detect variants i mean either you got

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coveted 19 or not right it's like

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on or off but how did they figure out

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that he had kova 20 well it's called

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kova 19b117 that's not as that's

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not as sexy as covet 20

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which it should be called but anyway i'm

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just asking the obvious question

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how did they figure that out

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somehow they find one guy with cover 20.

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it's funky all right this announcement

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commercial deliveries that's right all

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drones will require a new technology

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the rules will take effect 60 days after

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will have an additional year to provide

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remote id crazy right to fly over

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crowds of people commercial drones what

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are they gonna do t-shirt cannons

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i'm just saying federal investigators

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knew you knew this was coming

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you just knew it i want to thank

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awakening man

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he's so good federal investigators are

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looking into the evidence the antioch

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and was interested in lizard people

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anthony quinn warner may have been

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in part by paranoia over 5g

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technology but that they also found

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that contain ramblings about assorted

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conspiracy theories including the idea

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shape-shifting reptilian creatures

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that appear in human form and are

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attempting

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world domination federal agencies are

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working

292
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to figure out if the belief somehow

293
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contributed

294
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to warner detonating that bomb inside of

295
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an rv

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parked near 2nd avenue north and

297
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commerce street around 6 30

298
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a.m absolutely crazy now

299
00:14:47,829 --> 00:14:46,160
of course it killed himself suicide

300
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bombing injuring three others and

301
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damaging more than 40

302
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buildings you knew it was coming let's

303
00:14:55,110 --> 00:14:53,839
get this show cracking happy birthday

304
00:14:58,470 --> 00:14:55,120
too

305
00:15:02,949 --> 00:14:58,480
jude law jude law today

306
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insists that he is just 48 years old

307
00:15:12,230 --> 00:15:06,959
when did the movie ai come out

308
00:15:14,389 --> 00:15:12,240
pop it up for me here in twitter

309
00:15:15,750 --> 00:15:14,399
and he's just 48. didn't that movie come

310
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out like

311
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25 years ago 1995.

312
00:15:23,509 --> 00:15:21,440
somewhere right right am i it wasn't

313
00:15:27,030 --> 00:15:23,519
later than that

314
00:15:29,670 --> 00:15:27,040
so i guess jude law was like

315
00:15:30,470 --> 00:15:29,680
23 years old could he be i don't know i

316
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don't know maybe

317
00:15:33,910 --> 00:15:33,440
ai came out later i don't know well

318
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maybe

319
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not even the release date when did they

320
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film it because they had problems with

321
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it

322
00:15:44,870 --> 00:15:43,839
production when did they have principal

323
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photography

324
00:15:48,949 --> 00:15:47,279
with jude law what year because i'm just

325
00:15:51,509 --> 00:15:48,959
not buying

326
00:15:53,590 --> 00:15:51,519
that he is 48 years old ted danson today

327
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is 73 i'm buying into that

328
00:16:00,710 --> 00:15:57,040
john voigt today ray donovan

329
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john voigt today is 82

330
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and guitar great neil

331
00:16:10,230 --> 00:16:08,000
giraldo today 65 years

332
00:16:11,590 --> 00:16:10,240
old of course the husband and guitar

333
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player for pat

334
00:16:16,389 --> 00:16:15,680
benatar and uh i've got mad mad respect

335
00:16:20,470 --> 00:16:16,399
for neil

336
00:16:22,389 --> 00:16:20,480
great great player groundbreaking

337
00:16:25,189 --> 00:16:22,399
great player happy birthday neil our

338
00:16:28,230 --> 00:16:25,199
dead guy's birthday today is

339
00:16:31,269 --> 00:16:28,240
cozy powell 1947

340
00:16:33,350 --> 00:16:31,279
and 1998 died at the age of 50 cozy was

341
00:16:36,550 --> 00:16:33,360
one of the greatest drummers in music

342
00:16:39,990 --> 00:16:36,560
history period playing with

343
00:16:43,189 --> 00:16:40,000
the jeff beck group rainbow

344
00:16:46,550 --> 00:16:43,199
gary moore robert plant brian may

345
00:16:49,030 --> 00:16:46,560
white snake emerson lake and powell

346
00:16:50,150 --> 00:16:49,040
the michael shanker group and black

347
00:16:53,509 --> 00:16:50,160
sabbath

348
00:16:56,790 --> 00:16:53,519
cozy also appeared on at least

349
00:16:59,590 --> 00:16:56,800
66 albums because he died on april 5th

350
00:17:02,870 --> 00:16:59,600
1998 following a car crash while driving

351
00:17:03,670 --> 00:17:02,880
a saab 9000 at 104 miles per hour in bad

352
00:17:07,110 --> 00:17:03,680
weather

353
00:17:10,390 --> 00:17:07,120
on the m4 motorway near bristol

354
00:17:14,710 --> 00:17:10,400
in the united kingdom happy birthday

355
00:17:18,230 --> 00:17:14,720
cozy on this day in history 1845

356
00:17:22,949 --> 00:17:18,240
it went down

357
00:17:26,069 --> 00:17:22,959
texas tejas enters the union

358
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as the 28th state

359
00:17:32,230 --> 00:17:29,280
on the same history 1845.

360
00:17:33,029 --> 00:17:32,240
you know with that especially back then

361
00:17:34,950 --> 00:17:33,039
did that like

362
00:17:37,270 --> 00:17:34,960
effectively double the size of the

363
00:17:40,870 --> 00:17:37,280
united states

364
00:17:43,990 --> 00:17:40,880
think about it on the map probably

365
00:17:45,350 --> 00:17:44,000
all right fader fact oh this is a great

366
00:17:49,750 --> 00:17:45,360
one

367
00:17:51,270 --> 00:17:49,760
2001 for ai okay yeah it was released in

368
00:17:53,150 --> 00:17:51,280
2001.

369
00:17:54,549 --> 00:17:53,160
i want to know about principal

370
00:17:58,310 --> 00:17:54,559
photography

371
00:18:02,150 --> 00:17:58,320
but even that's 20 years ago

372
00:18:04,630 --> 00:18:02,160
yeah even that right yeah that's crazy

373
00:18:06,230 --> 00:18:04,640
hey i released in 2001 i see that i see

374
00:18:07,029 --> 00:18:06,240
that i want to know about principal

375
00:18:09,510 --> 00:18:07,039
photography

376
00:18:10,950 --> 00:18:09,520
i want to nail that down i i just i

377
00:18:14,310 --> 00:18:10,960
can't believe that jude laws

378
00:18:20,150 --> 00:18:14,320
is only um and what about the movie

379
00:18:23,909 --> 00:18:23,430
yeah was that before a i how could you

380
00:18:30,070 --> 00:18:23,919
lie

381
00:18:36,669 --> 00:18:33,110
i saw a jude law on a broadway show

382
00:18:39,830 --> 00:18:36,679
in summer of 1987.

383
00:18:43,430 --> 00:18:39,840
1997 1987

384
00:18:44,070 --> 00:18:43,440
jude law was 12. all right oh fader fact

385
00:18:50,230 --> 00:18:44,080
okay

386
00:18:54,230 --> 00:18:50,240
now one of the greatest scenes

387
00:18:57,110 --> 00:18:54,240
in all of cinema history okay

388
00:18:58,710 --> 00:18:57,120
one of the greatest scenes is when luca

389
00:19:01,830 --> 00:18:58,720
brazi

390
00:19:04,390 --> 00:19:01,840
in the godfather

391
00:19:05,669 --> 00:19:04,400
gets killed in the bar it's one of the

392
00:19:07,270 --> 00:19:05,679
great seats remember the

393
00:19:09,510 --> 00:19:07,280
the wire around the neck and they're

394
00:19:12,230 --> 00:19:09,520
choking them and

395
00:19:12,950 --> 00:19:12,240
and his tongue sticks out boom falls

396
00:19:16,230 --> 00:19:12,960
okay that

397
00:19:18,549 --> 00:19:16,240
that that scene unquestionably

398
00:19:19,430 --> 00:19:18,559
one of the greatest scenes in all of

399
00:19:22,549 --> 00:19:19,440
film right

400
00:19:27,510 --> 00:19:22,559
okay but here's the fader fact about

401
00:19:31,270 --> 00:19:27,520
luca bratzy you ready he was played by

402
00:19:38,470 --> 00:19:31,280
lenny montana

403
00:19:40,789 --> 00:19:38,480
was actually a member of the columbo

404
00:19:44,470 --> 00:19:40,799
crime family

405
00:19:45,669 --> 00:19:44,480
that's right and he was sent to monitor

406
00:19:49,110 --> 00:19:45,679
the set

407
00:19:52,870 --> 00:19:49,120
of the godfather in 1971

408
00:19:56,070 --> 00:19:52,880
by the columbo crime family

409
00:19:59,110 --> 00:19:56,080
that's right and

410
00:20:00,230 --> 00:19:59,120
he meets everybody you know he was six

411
00:20:02,710 --> 00:20:00,240
foot six

412
00:20:03,990 --> 00:20:02,720
and he meets everybody and they kind of

413
00:20:06,470 --> 00:20:04,000
check him out and he's hanging out

414
00:20:09,190 --> 00:20:06,480
they're filming the movie

415
00:20:12,070 --> 00:20:09,200
and they said we've we've got to get you

416
00:20:15,190 --> 00:20:13,590
and i'm not making this up i'm not

417
00:20:18,470 --> 00:20:15,200
making this up

418
00:20:21,669 --> 00:20:18,480
and he gets the gig at the beginning of

419
00:20:23,909 --> 00:20:21,679
the movie where you see uh

420
00:20:24,950 --> 00:20:23,919
luca brazzi at the wedding right and and

421
00:20:27,830 --> 00:20:24,960
he's gonna go in

422
00:20:29,350 --> 00:20:27,840
and and meet corleone and he keeps

423
00:20:31,750 --> 00:20:29,360
repeating

424
00:20:33,350 --> 00:20:31,760
uh you know you have a blessed son you

425
00:20:34,149 --> 00:20:33,360
have a great you know he's repeating

426
00:20:38,230 --> 00:20:34,159
those

427
00:20:41,750 --> 00:20:38,240
that was him actually in real life

428
00:20:45,190 --> 00:20:41,760
trying to memorize the script

429
00:20:48,710 --> 00:20:45,200
and they caught that on film

430
00:20:51,990 --> 00:20:48,720
and used it that's right

431
00:20:55,669 --> 00:20:52,000
and that is your fader fact

432
00:20:57,669 --> 00:20:55,679
tonight grant cameron is here tonight

433
00:20:59,270 --> 00:20:57,679
grant cameron is here we're winding down

434
00:21:01,430 --> 00:20:59,280
2020

435
00:21:03,270 --> 00:21:01,440
need to uh absolutely make sure that

436
00:21:05,270 --> 00:21:03,280
these last three shows last night marla

437
00:21:07,830 --> 00:21:05,280
martinson

438
00:21:08,470 --> 00:21:07,840
gattaca came out in 1997. now we're

439
00:21:12,950 --> 00:21:08,480
getting

440
00:21:14,149 --> 00:21:12,960
somewhere how can jude law just be 48

441
00:21:18,070 --> 00:21:14,159
years old

442
00:21:20,470 --> 00:21:18,080
i i i'm right about this

443
00:21:22,390 --> 00:21:20,480
because jude law looks like if you look

444
00:21:25,029 --> 00:21:22,400
at him today i forget that new

445
00:21:26,950 --> 00:21:25,039
uh tv series that he's in the second day

446
00:21:31,590 --> 00:21:26,960
the third day whatever it's called

447
00:21:34,470 --> 00:21:31,600
um jude law looks like he's 75 years old

448
00:21:35,190 --> 00:21:34,480
so that's it i'm sticking by that he's

449
00:21:37,830 --> 00:21:35,200
now 48.

450
00:21:38,549 --> 00:21:37,840
okay want to make sure that these last

451
00:21:40,710 --> 00:21:38,559
three shows

452
00:21:42,549 --> 00:21:40,720
you know last night with marla martinson

453
00:21:44,070 --> 00:21:42,559
uh tonight very important show we're

454
00:21:45,590 --> 00:21:44,080
running out of time we've only got two

455
00:21:47,830 --> 00:21:45,600
days left we've got to bring in the best

456
00:21:50,549 --> 00:21:47,840
we are bringing in grant cameron to talk

457
00:21:52,470 --> 00:21:50,559
about all of the ufo stories from 2020

458
00:21:53,909 --> 00:21:52,480
where we are today and what the future

459
00:21:57,110 --> 00:21:53,919
is for

460
00:21:58,630 --> 00:21:57,120
ttsa and the uap task force so we're

461
00:22:00,549 --> 00:21:58,640
gonna be doing all of that tonight

462
00:22:02,470 --> 00:22:00,559
and of course what is grant up to today

463
00:22:03,990 --> 00:22:02,480
i think he's taking dancing lessons and

464
00:22:04,549 --> 00:22:04,000
uh we'll be talking about that too as

465
00:22:05,990 --> 00:22:04,559
well

466
00:22:07,590 --> 00:22:06,000
and he'll be with us at the bottom of

467
00:22:10,950 --> 00:22:07,600
the hour tomorrow night

468
00:22:14,310 --> 00:22:10,960
right here on fade to black dr stephen

469
00:22:15,830 --> 00:22:14,320
greer and we'll be talking to dr greer

470
00:22:17,270 --> 00:22:15,840
about his new film of course close

471
00:22:20,390 --> 00:22:17,280
encounters of the fifth kind

472
00:22:23,830 --> 00:22:20,400
and it's impacted to huge hit and

473
00:22:25,830 --> 00:22:23,840
what disclosure may look like in 2021 so

474
00:22:27,830 --> 00:22:25,840
all of that is set for tomorrow night

475
00:22:28,470 --> 00:22:27,840
and this is the point of the show where

476
00:22:31,510 --> 00:22:28,480
i drink

477
00:22:41,909 --> 00:22:31,520
my river moon coffee hit my

478
00:22:47,270 --> 00:22:41,919
river moon coffee man

479
00:22:53,270 --> 00:22:50,870
man the best coffee in the world

480
00:22:54,470 --> 00:22:53,280
best coffee sorry jimmy i had to send

481
00:22:57,190 --> 00:22:54,480
this again

482
00:22:57,909 --> 00:22:57,200
it's my favorite okay let me see let me

483
00:23:00,149 --> 00:22:57,919
watch it which

484
00:23:01,990 --> 00:23:00,159
which one is it what what's going on

485
00:23:09,230 --> 00:23:02,000
here is there music to this

486
00:23:14,549 --> 00:23:09,240
let me see

487
00:23:20,830 --> 00:23:18,110
yeah that's pretty good that's pretty

488
00:23:24,470 --> 00:23:20,840
[Music]

489
00:23:32,710 --> 00:23:27,510
oh man that's funny

490
00:23:37,270 --> 00:23:35,830
that's pretty good that's pretty good

491
00:23:39,590 --> 00:23:37,280
that's pretty good thank you for that

492
00:23:41,510 --> 00:23:39,600
donnie

493
00:23:42,950 --> 00:23:41,520
the best movie that he's in road to

494
00:23:45,990 --> 00:23:42,960
perdition i

495
00:23:48,390 --> 00:23:46,000
look i'm a big uh jude law fan

496
00:23:49,669 --> 00:23:48,400
no you know what was even better oh man

497
00:23:50,549 --> 00:23:49,679
i've got other stuff i wanted to talk

498
00:23:54,149 --> 00:23:50,559
about

499
00:23:57,350 --> 00:23:54,159
um the movie

500
00:24:00,549 --> 00:23:57,360
where they have the marketing company

501
00:24:02,789 --> 00:24:00,559
and uh

502
00:24:04,180 --> 00:24:02,799
jude let me see here hold on for a

503
00:24:06,310 --> 00:24:04,190
second let me get to

504
00:24:09,830 --> 00:24:06,320
[Music]

505
00:24:13,990 --> 00:24:09,840
um because

506
00:24:16,710 --> 00:24:14,000
um there is a there's a film the

507
00:24:17,669 --> 00:24:16,720
ah man we've got the dvd we've watched

508
00:24:20,710 --> 00:24:17,679
it uh

509
00:24:26,549 --> 00:24:20,720
so many times now that's gonna be

510
00:24:30,390 --> 00:24:26,559
uh let's go back to mid 2000's

511
00:24:33,029 --> 00:24:30,400
uh i heart huckabees excellent film

512
00:24:34,630 --> 00:24:33,039
sky captain in the world of tomorrow

513
00:24:37,909 --> 00:24:34,640
that was excellent

514
00:24:40,870 --> 00:24:37,919
jude law that was made uh that was all

515
00:24:43,430 --> 00:24:40,880
cg that was made like in an apartment

516
00:24:45,990 --> 00:24:43,440
uh in santa monica yeah gigolo joe

517
00:24:47,430 --> 00:24:46,000
artificial intelligence 2001 enemy at

518
00:24:51,669 --> 00:24:47,440
the gates

519
00:24:54,789 --> 00:24:51,679
jude law was excellent in that uh

520
00:25:01,830 --> 00:24:58,789
gattica 1997 right there

521
00:25:03,990 --> 00:25:01,840
um i think it might have been

522
00:25:05,029 --> 00:25:04,000
gateko the first time i had seen jude

523
00:25:07,669 --> 00:25:05,039
law i watch

524
00:25:08,950 --> 00:25:07,679
gattica all the time i think gattaca is

525
00:25:11,110 --> 00:25:08,960
one of those

526
00:25:12,230 --> 00:25:11,120
you know i i think you could say it's

527
00:25:15,430 --> 00:25:12,240
got a cult following

528
00:25:17,669 --> 00:25:15,440
today it's it's uh it's a film that i

529
00:25:20,470 --> 00:25:17,679
can watch over and over again

530
00:25:22,630 --> 00:25:20,480
it is just so well made so good and uh

531
00:25:26,630 --> 00:25:22,640
great cast too as well

532
00:25:29,269 --> 00:25:26,640
but uh yeah enemy at the gates

533
00:25:30,870 --> 00:25:29,279
road to perdition ai artificial

534
00:25:31,430 --> 00:25:30,880
intelligence right there in a row and

535
00:25:33,029 --> 00:25:31,440
then sky

536
00:25:35,350 --> 00:25:33,039
captain in the world of tomorrow

537
00:25:38,870 --> 00:25:35,360
excellent he was great in alfie

538
00:25:40,950 --> 00:25:38,880
i heart huckabees um uh

539
00:25:42,470 --> 00:25:40,960
that's right he played errol flynn in

540
00:25:45,590 --> 00:25:42,480
the aviator

541
00:25:51,750 --> 00:25:45,600
a series of unfortunate events

542
00:26:00,789 --> 00:25:57,590
oh did you hear that

543
00:26:05,669 --> 00:26:00,799
siri just started mentioning

544
00:26:13,590 --> 00:26:10,390
that was trippy did you guys hear that

545
00:26:17,430 --> 00:26:13,600
oh man sherlock holmes that was a

546
00:26:22,830 --> 00:26:17,440
a horribly bad film um

547
00:26:30,470 --> 00:26:25,269
and

548
00:26:32,630 --> 00:26:30,480
yeah yeah yeah this is not uh

549
00:26:34,149 --> 00:26:32,640
it's not looking good he you know he's

550
00:26:36,870 --> 00:26:34,159
got like a solid 10-year

551
00:26:37,990 --> 00:26:36,880
run of some bad stuff the young pope was

552
00:26:42,390 --> 00:26:38,000
good

553
00:26:44,950 --> 00:26:42,400
[Music]

554
00:26:45,669 --> 00:26:44,960
and then uh i'm trying to think of this

555
00:26:48,630 --> 00:26:45,679
this new

556
00:26:49,909 --> 00:26:48,640
series the new pope that was really

557
00:26:53,990 --> 00:26:49,919
really good the third

558
00:26:57,029 --> 00:26:54,000
day the third day i got three episodes

559
00:26:59,750 --> 00:26:57,039
into that and

560
00:27:01,350 --> 00:26:59,760
uh nah so we got sherlock holmes three

561
00:27:03,830 --> 00:27:01,360
coming out

562
00:27:04,950 --> 00:27:03,840
peter pan and wendy he's playing captain

563
00:27:07,750 --> 00:27:04,960
hook

564
00:27:09,190 --> 00:27:07,760
uh no date on that yet oh that's

565
00:27:12,070 --> 00:27:09,200
pre-production

566
00:27:13,029 --> 00:27:12,080
and then megalopolis and uh we'll see

567
00:27:16,710 --> 00:27:13,039
what that is okay

568
00:27:18,870 --> 00:27:16,720
now uh that everything that i was gonna

569
00:27:20,549 --> 00:27:18,880
see that's how much i like jude law what

570
00:27:23,269 --> 00:27:20,559
was the last time

571
00:27:24,549 --> 00:27:23,279
you guys saw me just lose my mind and

572
00:27:26,789 --> 00:27:24,559
just go off script

573
00:27:31,750 --> 00:27:26,799
well i just did over jude law i like

574
00:27:38,310 --> 00:27:35,269
ai okay and gattica

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right there if you only make three films

576
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your entire career yeah i did a a gadoka

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i did ai

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i did i heart huckabees and then retired

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you're good

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00:27:52,950 --> 00:27:49,840
the things

581
00:27:54,389 --> 00:27:52,960
that um uh i'll spend

582
00:27:55,590 --> 00:27:54,399
uh some more time on this tomorrow one

583
00:27:56,950 --> 00:27:55,600
of the things that i wanted to talk

584
00:27:58,950 --> 00:27:56,960
about right now that i didn't because i

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was talking about jude law

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is why is it

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that i chose

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00:28:13,029 --> 00:28:10,480
why is it that people out there

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especially in the media

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00:28:18,310 --> 00:28:16,080
have ignored

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some of the things that i have gifted

592
00:28:23,909 --> 00:28:20,000
them over the years

593
00:28:25,750 --> 00:28:23,919
gifted them right i've broken some

594
00:28:26,950 --> 00:28:25,760
really cool stories i've been right in

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00:28:30,389 --> 00:28:26,960
front of things and

596
00:28:33,590 --> 00:28:30,399
and and seen things

597
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and broke it out in the very very

598
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very beginning of the show we had the

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malibu underwater base

600
00:28:41,269 --> 00:28:40,080
i wrote up an article posted it on the

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website

602
00:28:49,669 --> 00:28:44,720
back when we were small and that thing

603
00:28:53,190 --> 00:28:49,679
went viral went nuts had abc news

604
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uh come over and and interview me

605
00:29:00,389 --> 00:28:58,870
tons uh just it was crazy and we all

606
00:29:02,389 --> 00:29:00,399
know what happened with that right just

607
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absolutely blew up

608
00:29:10,630 --> 00:29:08,470
that was almost that was eight years ago

609
00:29:12,389 --> 00:29:10,640
right

610
00:29:13,750 --> 00:29:12,399
what's going on with that i don't get it

611
00:29:16,870 --> 00:29:13,760
but yet

612
00:29:19,750 --> 00:29:16,880
these other stories out there

613
00:29:21,110 --> 00:29:19,760
that uh in the ufo community that the

614
00:29:23,909 --> 00:29:21,120
the media

615
00:29:24,470 --> 00:29:23,919
tends to pick up it's not necessarily

616
00:29:28,149 --> 00:29:24,480
because

617
00:29:30,950 --> 00:29:28,159
it is the best story to cover

618
00:29:31,830 --> 00:29:30,960
it's probably one that was paid for or

619
00:29:37,190 --> 00:29:31,840
it's one that's

620
00:29:39,909 --> 00:29:37,200
influenced by a a public relations firm

621
00:29:41,590 --> 00:29:39,919
but it's not necessarily the biggest

622
00:29:45,590 --> 00:29:41,600
story to cover

623
00:29:47,029 --> 00:29:45,600
i don't get that and i compiled the list

624
00:29:48,549 --> 00:29:47,039
earlier today i'll go through it

625
00:29:48,870 --> 00:29:48,559
tomorrow night on some of the stories

626
00:29:54,149 --> 00:29:48,880
that

627
00:29:56,470 --> 00:29:54,159
over the last seven eight years but the

628
00:29:58,310 --> 00:29:56,480
media never covered

629
00:29:59,830 --> 00:29:58,320
and i'll do that tomorrow night i

630
00:30:02,789 --> 00:29:59,840
promise i will get

631
00:30:03,510 --> 00:30:02,799
to all of that tomorrow night jude law

632
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took over

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the show tonight i'm your host jimmy

634
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church tonight right here

635
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live from canada grant cameron tomorrow

636
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night

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fade to black last show of 2020.

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that's right the year so sucky

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they named it twice tomorrow night last

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show of the year

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dr stephen greer i'm your host jimmy

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church i'll be right back after this

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short break

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your father's radio show on the game

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and kgra the planet

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hi this is rob reiner from anvil and

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you're listening to jimmychurchradio.com

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all right welcome back fade to black i'm

750
00:35:42,630 --> 00:35:38,880
nervous jimmy church tonight

751
00:35:43,990 --> 00:35:42,640
our second to last show for 2020 grant

752
00:35:47,030 --> 00:35:44,000
cameron joins us live from

753
00:35:47,430 --> 00:35:47,040
canada we're going to be covering all of

754
00:35:50,630 --> 00:35:47,440
the

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latest uh ufo et uap headlines and

756
00:35:54,550 --> 00:35:52,400
stories from 2020 we're going to be

757
00:35:56,470 --> 00:35:54,560
talking about that

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00:35:58,630 --> 00:35:56,480
and of course what i'm calling the

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downfall of ttsa

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00:36:01,670 --> 00:36:00,240
we'll see what grant has to say about

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00:36:04,470 --> 00:36:01,680
that

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and also the funding of the uap task

763
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force

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oh big news and what is going to go on

765
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with all

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of this with our community moving

767
00:36:15,550 --> 00:36:13,359
forward into 2021

768
00:36:18,230 --> 00:36:15,560
grant has been a ufo researcher since

769
00:36:19,750 --> 00:36:18,240
1975 and was recognized as both the

770
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leads conference international

771
00:36:23,349 --> 00:36:21,200
researcher of the year

772
00:36:25,349 --> 00:36:23,359
and the ufo congress researcher of the

773
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year he's a world renowned expert on

774
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ufos conspiracies government cover-ups

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and has spent decades watching and

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chronicling developments around the

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extraterrestrial contact now

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00:36:38,630 --> 00:36:37,280
he is the author of charlie red star i

779
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would like to welcome back to fade to

780
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black our favorite

781
00:36:43,670 --> 00:36:42,320
grand cameron grant good evening man how

782
00:36:45,109 --> 00:36:43,680
are you

783
00:36:47,750 --> 00:36:45,119
just doing fine jimmy thanks for having

784
00:36:48,230 --> 00:36:47,760
me on yeah it's uh great to uh hear your

785
00:36:52,790 --> 00:36:48,240
voice

786
00:36:56,310 --> 00:36:52,800
again uh before we get started

787
00:36:59,829 --> 00:36:56,320
i how how excited are you

788
00:37:03,270 --> 00:37:02,150
in terms of ufos you're talking no in

789
00:37:06,829 --> 00:37:03,280
terms of

790
00:37:10,150 --> 00:37:06,839
getting 20 20 behind us

791
00:37:12,150 --> 00:37:10,160
um i don't know it's um

792
00:37:14,230 --> 00:37:12,160
not as bad here as it is there in terms

793
00:37:16,310 --> 00:37:14,240
of what's happening in 2020 but

794
00:37:18,310 --> 00:37:16,320
uh i don't really look at it i like it

795
00:37:21,990 --> 00:37:18,320
from day to day so i i really don't see

796
00:37:25,190 --> 00:37:22,000
uh i think 2021 we'll have

797
00:37:26,630 --> 00:37:25,200
uh new challenges as well and um

798
00:37:28,790 --> 00:37:26,640
but i can see where people want to sort

799
00:37:30,230 --> 00:37:28,800
of uh move on and uh

800
00:37:31,990 --> 00:37:30,240
get all this uh this stuff that's

801
00:37:33,430 --> 00:37:32,000
happened during the year behind us well

802
00:37:36,790 --> 00:37:33,440
the number one search

803
00:37:40,150 --> 00:37:36,800
in google in the united states is how do

804
00:37:43,510 --> 00:37:42,069
yeah well we've got it's strange we've

805
00:37:47,510 --> 00:37:43,520
got

806
00:37:49,510 --> 00:37:47,520
13 territories and provinces and we have

807
00:37:51,270 --> 00:37:49,520
seven of them that are getting hammered

808
00:37:52,550 --> 00:37:51,280
and we got six that basically don't have

809
00:37:55,589 --> 00:37:52,560
any covet at all so

810
00:37:57,349 --> 00:37:55,599
um it depends where you live and um

811
00:37:59,190 --> 00:37:57,359
the borders close we don't go to the

812
00:38:00,069 --> 00:37:59,200
states and they're trying to keep people

813
00:38:01,670 --> 00:38:00,079
out and so

814
00:38:03,990 --> 00:38:01,680
we'll see what where it comes but i know

815
00:38:06,550 --> 00:38:04,000
it's a lot of people looking

816
00:38:07,910 --> 00:38:06,560
at um different places to go and

817
00:38:08,550 --> 00:38:07,920
different opportunities so we'll see

818
00:38:10,630 --> 00:38:08,560
what happens

819
00:38:12,230 --> 00:38:10,640
when when you say that's interesting i

820
00:38:13,510 --> 00:38:12,240
was talking to jason quit about this

821
00:38:16,550 --> 00:38:13,520
when you say the border is

822
00:38:19,910 --> 00:38:16,560
closed is that for cars

823
00:38:22,230 --> 00:38:19,920
or is this like airplanes and everything

824
00:38:24,150 --> 00:38:22,240
everything unless you have a uh reason

825
00:38:26,950 --> 00:38:24,160
like unless you're doing business

826
00:38:27,910 --> 00:38:26,960
uh you can't go for pleasure or that

827
00:38:32,230 --> 00:38:27,920
kind of stuff you can't

828
00:38:34,150 --> 00:38:32,240
um they'll basically stop you so um

829
00:38:35,349 --> 00:38:34,160
like destiny assistant went across and

830
00:38:37,430 --> 00:38:35,359
she had um

831
00:38:38,710 --> 00:38:37,440
you know job that she was gonna do there

832
00:38:39,670 --> 00:38:38,720
and stuff like so she managed to get

833
00:38:41,270 --> 00:38:39,680
across but

834
00:38:43,030 --> 00:38:41,280
most people don't want to go they just

835
00:38:45,510 --> 00:38:43,040
uh everybody's sitting tight and

836
00:38:46,470 --> 00:38:45,520
uh you know they see what's going on in

837
00:38:49,109 --> 00:38:46,480
various parts of

838
00:38:49,829 --> 00:38:49,119
uh you know the world and nobody wants

839
00:38:53,030 --> 00:38:49,839
to move

840
00:38:55,430 --> 00:38:53,040
now you're in manitoba right yeah now

841
00:38:56,310 --> 00:38:55,440
um and you you must have border

842
00:38:59,510 --> 00:38:56,320
crossings

843
00:39:03,349 --> 00:38:59,520
there uh into the united states and

844
00:39:06,150 --> 00:39:03,359
so there uh what is what's up

845
00:39:06,630 --> 00:39:06,160
like are the roads just blocked right

846
00:39:08,390 --> 00:39:06,640
and no

847
00:39:10,230 --> 00:39:08,400
like i mean the trucks are going across

848
00:39:12,230 --> 00:39:10,240
so business type stuff they'll do it

849
00:39:14,390 --> 00:39:12,240
or if you take a look at um the

850
00:39:16,069 --> 00:39:14,400
situation in detroit and windsor

851
00:39:17,829 --> 00:39:16,079
right so windsor is on one side of the

852
00:39:19,750 --> 00:39:17,839
border detroit's on the other side

853
00:39:20,950 --> 00:39:19,760
and you have a lot of people moving back

854
00:39:22,150 --> 00:39:20,960
and forth across the border there

855
00:39:23,349 --> 00:39:22,160
because you've got a lot of nurses

856
00:39:25,190 --> 00:39:23,359
working in detroit

857
00:39:27,589 --> 00:39:25,200
right but basically they'll try to stop

858
00:39:30,150 --> 00:39:27,599
you if you want to go for a holiday to

859
00:39:32,069 --> 00:39:30,160
you know la for the weather or whatever

860
00:39:33,430 --> 00:39:32,079
um it's basically just business so

861
00:39:35,510 --> 00:39:33,440
unless you've got a business thing

862
00:39:36,069 --> 00:39:35,520
they'll sort of block you from going

863
00:39:38,150 --> 00:39:36,079
across

864
00:39:39,510 --> 00:39:38,160
yeah so you pull up you got the kids in

865
00:39:42,230 --> 00:39:39,520
the back seat

866
00:39:42,630 --> 00:39:42,240
you're not moving forward right yeah

867
00:39:46,390 --> 00:39:42,640
yeah

868
00:39:47,589 --> 00:39:46,400
i know desta got across she um

869
00:39:49,670 --> 00:39:47,599
she was determined she was going to get

870
00:39:52,950 --> 00:39:49,680
across she actually went to l.a

871
00:39:54,310 --> 00:39:52,960
and she's um still there but um yeah no

872
00:39:56,470 --> 00:39:54,320
nobody's i don't ever really heard too

873
00:39:57,829 --> 00:39:56,480
many people want to go

874
00:39:59,109 --> 00:39:57,839
anywhere they're just sort of i mean

875
00:39:59,910 --> 00:39:59,119
they're moving around in county you can

876
00:40:03,349 --> 00:39:59,920
move

877
00:40:04,950 --> 00:40:03,359
anywhere you want if you're

878
00:40:07,270 --> 00:40:04,960
coming in from the east you have to

879
00:40:08,470 --> 00:40:07,280
quarantine so it depends again in canada

880
00:40:09,910 --> 00:40:08,480
there are some areas that

881
00:40:11,990 --> 00:40:09,920
didn't have their first probate case

882
00:40:14,150 --> 00:40:12,000
until a couple of weeks ago

883
00:40:15,349 --> 00:40:14,160
um one other thing i wanted to ask you

884
00:40:18,710 --> 00:40:15,359
about um

885
00:40:21,990 --> 00:40:18,720
before we get to the subject of ufos uh

886
00:40:23,670 --> 00:40:22,000
was trudeau it was about a month ago

887
00:40:28,230 --> 00:40:23,680
maybe six weeks ago

888
00:40:31,190 --> 00:40:28,240
where he talked about the big reset

889
00:40:32,309 --> 00:40:31,200
did you did you see that uh the

890
00:40:35,910 --> 00:40:32,319
television

891
00:40:38,150 --> 00:40:35,920
uh the live stream that he did

892
00:40:40,150 --> 00:40:38,160
uh no it doesn't ring a bell no okay all

893
00:40:41,750 --> 00:40:40,160
right okay well we'll just move on it

894
00:40:43,430 --> 00:40:41,760
alarmed a lot of people in in the

895
00:40:45,990 --> 00:40:43,440
community they're like

896
00:40:46,470 --> 00:40:46,000
trudeau is about the new world order

897
00:40:48,069 --> 00:40:46,480
right

898
00:40:49,349 --> 00:40:48,079
and well yeah this there's so much

899
00:40:50,870 --> 00:40:49,359
that's one of the things i found in

900
00:40:52,390 --> 00:40:50,880
ufology today because we're going to get

901
00:40:54,470 --> 00:40:52,400
into ufology but

902
00:40:56,230 --> 00:40:54,480
in the way in the world today i mean you

903
00:40:58,710 --> 00:40:56,240
really can't believe

904
00:40:59,910 --> 00:40:58,720
almost anything that's put out i mean uh

905
00:41:04,230 --> 00:40:59,920
we i got i got a

906
00:41:06,150 --> 00:41:04,240
a an email from the states and said um

907
00:41:07,670 --> 00:41:06,160
just they wanted me to tell me that that

908
00:41:09,990 --> 00:41:07,680
china was in canada

909
00:41:10,710 --> 00:41:10,000
on the american border and was preparing

910
00:41:13,990 --> 00:41:10,720
to invade

911
00:41:15,349 --> 00:41:14,000
yes i got the same thing

912
00:41:17,430 --> 00:41:15,359
i live on the border i think if there

913
00:41:18,069 --> 00:41:17,440
was like you know a couple million

914
00:41:19,589 --> 00:41:18,079
troops and

915
00:41:21,109 --> 00:41:19,599
chinese tanks we would see them and that

916
00:41:22,950 --> 00:41:21,119
like no it's not true and then

917
00:41:25,430 --> 00:41:22,960
you mentioned trudeau so then a couple

918
00:41:25,990 --> 00:41:25,440
weeks ago i got another email and it was

919
00:41:28,309 --> 00:41:26,000
like

920
00:41:29,829 --> 00:41:28,319
um just to let me know that trudeau had

921
00:41:32,230 --> 00:41:29,839
sold all the gold in

922
00:41:33,270 --> 00:41:32,240
canada to china and i'm going well no i

923
00:41:35,430 --> 00:41:33,280
don't think so i mean

924
00:41:36,630 --> 00:41:35,440
the president or the same as the united

925
00:41:39,589 --> 00:41:36,640
states has no gold

926
00:41:41,510 --> 00:41:39,599
canada has no gold uh it's all held by

927
00:41:42,550 --> 00:41:41,520
private companies so no he didn't sell a

928
00:41:44,150 --> 00:41:42,560
gold to china

929
00:41:45,910 --> 00:41:44,160
and that's the thing is like it's a

930
00:41:49,270 --> 00:41:45,920
situation now

931
00:41:51,270 --> 00:41:49,280
is really bad in ufology is that people

932
00:41:52,390 --> 00:41:51,280
sort of believe almost anything that

933
00:41:54,150 --> 00:41:52,400
comes out or the one

934
00:41:55,829 --> 00:41:54,160
you saw today with the vaccine from the

935
00:41:56,870 --> 00:41:55,839
was that last couple days has been a big

936
00:41:58,309 --> 00:41:56,880
story

937
00:42:00,069 --> 00:41:58,319
in brazil and you're going to get a lot

938
00:42:00,390 --> 00:42:00,079
of people buying this in brazil where

939
00:42:05,990 --> 00:42:00,400
the

940
00:42:08,230 --> 00:42:06,000
turn into a crocodile

941
00:42:10,069 --> 00:42:08,240
and and women will grow beards and and i

942
00:42:10,790 --> 00:42:10,079
billy and a lot of people will just buy

943
00:42:12,550 --> 00:42:10,800
into that

944
00:42:14,309 --> 00:42:12,560
and that's the whole thing that the ufo

945
00:42:15,829 --> 00:42:14,319
community used to be sort of like you

946
00:42:16,390 --> 00:42:15,839
could tell what was garbage and what

947
00:42:17,990 --> 00:42:16,400
wasn't

948
00:42:19,510 --> 00:42:18,000
now it's like just so much stuff

949
00:42:22,390 --> 00:42:19,520
floating around and

950
00:42:23,910 --> 00:42:22,400
you get a lot of people who believe a

951
00:42:25,349 --> 00:42:23,920
lot of the stories are out there so

952
00:42:27,270 --> 00:42:25,359
how do you distinguish you know the

953
00:42:28,309 --> 00:42:27,280
disinformation from the information

954
00:42:29,910 --> 00:42:28,319
and because that's the way the

955
00:42:31,510 --> 00:42:29,920
government actually operated if you go

956
00:42:32,550 --> 00:42:31,520
back to the robertson panel

957
00:42:34,790 --> 00:42:32,560
that was the whole deal they were going

958
00:42:36,790 --> 00:42:34,800
to bring in walt disney and so

959
00:42:39,030 --> 00:42:36,800
what i've always said that they do to

960
00:42:40,550 --> 00:42:39,040
disrupt disrupt the ufo community

961
00:42:41,910 --> 00:42:40,560
is they don't need to kill anybody or do

962
00:42:43,349 --> 00:42:41,920
anything like that all they do is throw

963
00:42:44,150 --> 00:42:43,359
if you've got a story like if you break

964
00:42:46,150 --> 00:42:44,160
a story

965
00:42:48,230 --> 00:42:46,160
they put a second story in that counters

966
00:42:51,190 --> 00:42:48,240
your story that has different sources

967
00:42:52,309 --> 00:42:51,200
and uh just throw mud in the water and

968
00:42:53,829 --> 00:42:52,319
that that's the problem that we're

969
00:42:56,470 --> 00:42:53,839
facing is

970
00:42:57,829 --> 00:42:56,480
there's so many bad stories so many bad

971
00:42:59,109 --> 00:42:57,839
um

972
00:43:00,390 --> 00:42:59,119
leads and stuff like that that you

973
00:43:01,109 --> 00:43:00,400
really can't figure out where to go and

974
00:43:04,230 --> 00:43:01,119
how to how to

975
00:43:06,069 --> 00:43:04,240
sort the wheat from the chaff the

976
00:43:07,589 --> 00:43:06,079
the email that you're talking about

977
00:43:10,790 --> 00:43:07,599
because i got the same one

978
00:43:12,870 --> 00:43:10,800
about uh you know china entering canada

979
00:43:14,230 --> 00:43:12,880
getting ready to you know they've

980
00:43:16,230 --> 00:43:14,240
amassed their troops

981
00:43:17,510 --> 00:43:16,240
uh on the canadian united states border

982
00:43:18,870 --> 00:43:17,520
they're getting ready to invade the

983
00:43:21,670 --> 00:43:18,880
united states and

984
00:43:22,630 --> 00:43:21,680
and so i got that same email i think

985
00:43:27,190 --> 00:43:22,640
we're in the same

986
00:43:28,950 --> 00:43:27,200
group right and and uh

987
00:43:30,470 --> 00:43:28,960
all over the place right right i'm not

988
00:43:31,510 --> 00:43:30,480
going to say any more than that because

989
00:43:33,670 --> 00:43:31,520
i don't want

990
00:43:34,710 --> 00:43:33,680
anybody to know what what goes on with

991
00:43:38,150 --> 00:43:34,720
our little uh

992
00:43:41,670 --> 00:43:38,160
group here but nonetheless um i'm

993
00:43:45,030 --> 00:43:41,680
wondering the source of the

994
00:43:48,390 --> 00:43:45,040
original email who typed

995
00:43:51,589 --> 00:43:48,400
that up who dreamed

996
00:43:52,870 --> 00:43:51,599
that up before the distribution right i

997
00:43:55,109 --> 00:43:52,880
want to know who that

998
00:43:56,550 --> 00:43:55,119
individual is to come up with something

999
00:43:59,109 --> 00:43:56,560
so crazy because

1000
00:43:59,990 --> 00:43:59,119
in that group somebody replied back dude

1001
00:44:03,750 --> 00:44:00,000
i live

1002
00:44:06,950 --> 00:44:03,760
right here there's no chinese troops

1003
00:44:09,190 --> 00:44:06,960
right there's nothing going on

1004
00:44:09,990 --> 00:44:09,200
is it is it like a political person

1005
00:44:11,109 --> 00:44:10,000
who's

1006
00:44:13,589 --> 00:44:11,119
putting it out because you had the thing

1007
00:44:15,270 --> 00:44:13,599
with this um this explosion i didn't

1008
00:44:16,870 --> 00:44:15,280
watch it in in was it nashville or

1009
00:44:18,150 --> 00:44:16,880
something and yeah and they put that one

1010
00:44:21,750 --> 00:44:18,160
as a chinese missile

1011
00:44:23,829 --> 00:44:21,760
and and this stuff is coming up so fast

1012
00:44:26,069 --> 00:44:23,839
and it may is it clicks that people want

1013
00:44:28,230 --> 00:44:26,079
to you know get huge clicks on

1014
00:44:29,349 --> 00:44:28,240
crazy stories it's it's like you know in

1015
00:44:30,069 --> 00:44:29,359
the ufo community you had that thing

1016
00:44:32,950 --> 00:44:30,079
about the

1017
00:44:33,510 --> 00:44:32,960
uh you know the off-world planets and

1018
00:44:35,750 --> 00:44:33,520
and the

1019
00:44:37,670 --> 00:44:35,760
the star guys and all this kind of stuff

1020
00:44:38,870 --> 00:44:37,680
and it was like uh those were the guys

1021
00:44:41,829 --> 00:44:38,880
that when you went to

1022
00:44:43,030 --> 00:44:41,839
places like um uh conscious life expo i

1023
00:44:44,150 --> 00:44:43,040
would give a lecture on

1024
00:44:45,990 --> 00:44:44,160
like consciousness or something like

1025
00:44:47,910 --> 00:44:46,000
that i'd get 35 people and you go across

1026
00:44:50,550 --> 00:44:47,920
the hall to one of these you know

1027
00:44:52,150 --> 00:44:50,560
really wild story things and it was like

1028
00:44:53,109 --> 00:44:52,160
600 people and there was 100 people

1029
00:44:54,630 --> 00:44:53,119
standing in line

1030
00:44:55,829 --> 00:44:54,640
and furious as could be because they had

1031
00:44:56,870 --> 00:44:55,839
they'd oversold the tickets they

1032
00:44:58,230 --> 00:44:56,880
couldn't get in the room

1033
00:45:00,230 --> 00:44:58,240
and that's the kind of stuff is that

1034
00:45:02,710 --> 00:45:00,240
stuff is really really popular

1035
00:45:04,069 --> 00:45:02,720
the wilder the story and and we even run

1036
00:45:05,030 --> 00:45:04,079
into that problem in you the ufo

1037
00:45:08,790 --> 00:45:05,040
community

1038
00:45:10,309 --> 00:45:08,800
is that um i i think that a lot of the

1039
00:45:12,710 --> 00:45:10,319
ufo community

1040
00:45:14,390 --> 00:45:12,720
is just into entertainment that they're

1041
00:45:15,750 --> 00:45:14,400
really not serious researchers

1042
00:45:18,150 --> 00:45:15,760
they just want to hear a good story tell

1043
00:45:19,270 --> 00:45:18,160
me a good uh you know ufo sighting or a

1044
00:45:21,750 --> 00:45:19,280
good story whatever

1045
00:45:23,030 --> 00:45:21,760
and so these stories can take off

1046
00:45:23,990 --> 00:45:23,040
because that's the kind of stuff people

1047
00:45:25,910 --> 00:45:24,000
are looking for

1048
00:45:27,670 --> 00:45:25,920
is something really new and explosive

1049
00:45:30,309 --> 00:45:27,680
and it's like it's like entertainment

1050
00:45:31,510 --> 00:45:30,319
whereas in the old days you had to you

1051
00:45:33,910 --> 00:45:31,520
know have your source

1052
00:45:35,750 --> 00:45:33,920
and you had to um almost like the

1053
00:45:37,750 --> 00:45:35,760
stanton friedman stuff you had to

1054
00:45:39,109 --> 00:45:37,760
uh be really credible and put your story

1055
00:45:40,470 --> 00:45:39,119
out there was not that many now it's

1056
00:45:42,230 --> 00:45:40,480
like every day it's 24

1057
00:45:44,069 --> 00:45:42,240
7 and the stories that are floating

1058
00:45:46,550 --> 00:45:44,079
around are just like absolutely

1059
00:45:47,430 --> 00:45:46,560
insane and and the weird part is you see

1060
00:45:50,230 --> 00:45:47,440
people are

1061
00:45:51,750 --> 00:45:50,240
are buying into this stuff yeah the uh

1062
00:45:55,349 --> 00:45:51,760
the nashville bomber

1063
00:45:55,990 --> 00:45:55,359
now i just uh broke this story this came

1064
00:45:58,069 --> 00:45:56,000
in

1065
00:45:59,510 --> 00:45:58,079
uh from one of the fader knots right

1066
00:46:02,309 --> 00:45:59,520
before the show tonight i

1067
00:46:04,150 --> 00:46:02,319
actually went vetted the story and saw

1068
00:46:07,990 --> 00:46:04,160
the news report on it

1069
00:46:11,109 --> 00:46:08,000
from abc right and

1070
00:46:13,030 --> 00:46:11,119
it's uh federal investigators are

1071
00:46:14,230 --> 00:46:13,040
looking into the bomber's name was

1072
00:46:16,470 --> 00:46:14,240
anthony quinn

1073
00:46:18,069 --> 00:46:16,480
warner in nashville from christmas

1074
00:46:21,270 --> 00:46:18,079
morning with the rv

1075
00:46:22,790 --> 00:46:21,280
and they're going to look uh they are

1076
00:46:25,349 --> 00:46:22,800
reporting now

1077
00:46:28,150 --> 00:46:25,359
that he had spent time hunting for alien

1078
00:46:31,589 --> 00:46:28,160
life forms in a nearby state park

1079
00:46:34,870 --> 00:46:31,599
and was interested in lizard people

1080
00:46:36,069 --> 00:46:34,880
it said that they found writings in his

1081
00:46:38,150 --> 00:46:36,079
home that contained

1082
00:46:39,510 --> 00:46:38,160
ramblings about assorted conspiracy

1083
00:46:42,230 --> 00:46:39,520
theories including

1084
00:46:44,630 --> 00:46:42,240
the idea of shape-shifting reptilian

1085
00:46:47,829 --> 00:46:44,640
creatures that appear in human form

1086
00:46:50,710 --> 00:46:47,839
and attempt world domination

1087
00:46:52,069 --> 00:46:50,720
you know and it goes right back to what

1088
00:46:55,430 --> 00:46:52,079
you just said

1089
00:46:57,109 --> 00:46:55,440
you know some people uh go

1090
00:46:59,270 --> 00:46:57,119
and whoever they're listening to

1091
00:47:00,550 --> 00:46:59,280
whatever you know and these groups are

1092
00:47:02,470 --> 00:47:00,560
pretty large

1093
00:47:04,230 --> 00:47:02,480
uh that are out there and they get

1094
00:47:07,109 --> 00:47:04,240
sucked into this

1095
00:47:08,309 --> 00:47:07,119
you know now i'm not saying that there

1096
00:47:10,790 --> 00:47:08,319
isn't something

1097
00:47:12,150 --> 00:47:10,800
to the story you know we've got a

1098
00:47:15,190 --> 00:47:12,160
reptilian

1099
00:47:16,230 --> 00:47:15,200
dna in our brain okay all right i i can

1100
00:47:18,150 --> 00:47:16,240
go with that

1101
00:47:20,069 --> 00:47:18,160
taking things to the next step where

1102
00:47:22,390 --> 00:47:20,079
you're gonna drive around an

1103
00:47:23,510 --> 00:47:22,400
rv and start blowing up things because

1104
00:47:25,270 --> 00:47:23,520
of this

1105
00:47:27,910 --> 00:47:25,280
that's where we've just got to pump the

1106
00:47:30,230 --> 00:47:27,920
brakes here and and back up

1107
00:47:31,190 --> 00:47:30,240
and and be very careful and use

1108
00:47:33,190 --> 00:47:31,200
discernment

1109
00:47:34,710 --> 00:47:33,200
with this and not everybody has that

1110
00:47:38,150 --> 00:47:34,720
strength or power

1111
00:47:40,630 --> 00:47:38,160
uh to avoid the rabbit hole do they yeah

1112
00:47:41,670 --> 00:47:40,640
and and and the other problem is that

1113
00:47:43,990 --> 00:47:41,680
everybody can

1114
00:47:45,670 --> 00:47:44,000
post immediately like it's you can

1115
00:47:46,390 --> 00:47:45,680
you're everybody's uh like the new york

1116
00:47:48,630 --> 00:47:46,400
times

1117
00:47:50,230 --> 00:47:48,640
and it's you can get whatever numbers

1118
00:47:50,630 --> 00:47:50,240
you want based upon the stories you put

1119
00:47:52,150 --> 00:47:50,640
out

1120
00:47:53,430 --> 00:47:52,160
that that a lot of the stuff isn't

1121
00:47:55,510 --> 00:47:53,440
really getting vetted because there's

1122
00:47:57,270 --> 00:47:55,520
just so many people posting stories

1123
00:47:58,950 --> 00:47:57,280
on all sorts of things and there's even

1124
00:47:59,510 --> 00:47:58,960
been shows there was a show in canada it

1125
00:48:01,190 --> 00:47:59,520
was called

1126
00:48:02,710 --> 00:48:01,200
this hour is 22 minutes and they

1127
00:48:04,309 --> 00:48:02,720
actually did a segment where they were

1128
00:48:05,589 --> 00:48:04,319
we'd go to people and they would see how

1129
00:48:06,069 --> 00:48:05,599
far they could actually get people to

1130
00:48:07,829 --> 00:48:06,079
believe

1131
00:48:09,430 --> 00:48:07,839
and they had like the one story where

1132
00:48:10,549 --> 00:48:09,440
the canadian parliament buildings was

1133
00:48:12,870 --> 00:48:10,559
made of ice

1134
00:48:13,829 --> 00:48:12,880
and we're uh getting a petition here so

1135
00:48:15,589 --> 00:48:13,839
they can put a

1136
00:48:16,790 --> 00:48:15,599
a dome over to the parliament building

1137
00:48:18,710 --> 00:48:16,800
because of global warming and we're

1138
00:48:19,990 --> 00:48:18,720
trying to save the thing from melting

1139
00:48:21,270 --> 00:48:20,000
and people were and they were they were

1140
00:48:22,390 --> 00:48:21,280
i think they're at stanford university

1141
00:48:23,750 --> 00:48:22,400
or something and people are going yeah

1142
00:48:24,230 --> 00:48:23,760
yeah i'll sign the petition and it was

1143
00:48:25,910 --> 00:48:24,240
like

1144
00:48:27,589 --> 00:48:25,920
and they were pushing it as far as they

1145
00:48:31,030 --> 00:48:27,599
could to show how

1146
00:48:31,990 --> 00:48:31,040
how people really just don't don't vet

1147
00:48:34,230 --> 00:48:32,000
anything

1148
00:48:35,670 --> 00:48:34,240
and uh so it's almost like we're in the

1149
00:48:38,309 --> 00:48:35,680
21st century but

1150
00:48:40,309 --> 00:48:38,319
the sort of the people are going back to

1151
00:48:41,349 --> 00:48:40,319
almost like the 15th or 16th century

1152
00:48:43,670 --> 00:48:41,359
where

1153
00:48:44,549 --> 00:48:43,680
very simple things that you would uh 20

1154
00:48:45,670 --> 00:48:44,559
years ago would have said that's

1155
00:48:47,670 --> 00:48:45,680
absolutely insane

1156
00:48:48,790 --> 00:48:47,680
now a lot of people think it's not that

1157
00:48:52,309 --> 00:48:48,800
insane

1158
00:48:55,829 --> 00:48:52,319
a chinese missile fired into

1159
00:48:58,069 --> 00:48:55,839
nashville tennessee right

1160
00:48:59,190 --> 00:48:58,079
ah you know and and look i love a good

1161
00:49:02,230 --> 00:48:59,200
conspiracy

1162
00:49:05,270 --> 00:49:02,240
i do they are fun

1163
00:49:09,270 --> 00:49:05,280
some of them pan out they do

1164
00:49:12,710 --> 00:49:09,280
i agree chinese missiles into nashville

1165
00:49:14,309 --> 00:49:12,720
ah you know but somebody out there is

1166
00:49:16,309 --> 00:49:14,319
cranking this stuff out

1167
00:49:17,670 --> 00:49:16,319
and one of the problems that we have

1168
00:49:19,510 --> 00:49:17,680
today grant you've been in this

1169
00:49:23,829 --> 00:49:19,520
community for a long time

1170
00:49:27,030 --> 00:49:23,839
is our our community can handle

1171
00:49:29,990 --> 00:49:27,040
conspiracies our our community

1172
00:49:31,430 --> 00:49:30,000
can we are used to it we know how to vet

1173
00:49:33,910 --> 00:49:31,440
we know how you know and

1174
00:49:36,309 --> 00:49:33,920
like you said earlier you got to bring

1175
00:49:37,750 --> 00:49:36,319
your a game into the ufo community

1176
00:49:39,670 --> 00:49:37,760
you've got to bring stuff

1177
00:49:41,510 --> 00:49:39,680
backed up with facts and and so forth

1178
00:49:43,910 --> 00:49:41,520
our community can deal with it

1179
00:49:46,069 --> 00:49:43,920
the rest of the world they don't have

1180
00:49:47,750 --> 00:49:46,079
the expertise or the experience with

1181
00:49:51,349 --> 00:49:47,760
conspiracy theories

1182
00:49:53,750 --> 00:49:51,359
like we do and right now the planet

1183
00:49:55,430 --> 00:49:53,760
because of covid because of the other

1184
00:49:56,390 --> 00:49:55,440
things that have gone down with racism

1185
00:49:59,990 --> 00:49:56,400
and

1186
00:50:03,349 --> 00:50:00,000
conspiracy theory now

1187
00:50:05,270 --> 00:50:03,359
is what everybody is jumping to first

1188
00:50:06,790 --> 00:50:05,280
and they're not spending any time to

1189
00:50:09,589 --> 00:50:06,800
debunk or investigate

1190
00:50:10,950 --> 00:50:09,599
or use any rationale they're just

1191
00:50:13,910 --> 00:50:10,960
jumping into it aren't they

1192
00:50:14,230 --> 00:50:13,920
the world can't handle conspiracy theory

1193
00:50:15,910 --> 00:50:14,240
yeah

1194
00:50:17,430 --> 00:50:15,920
and there's just so much of it that how

1195
00:50:19,670 --> 00:50:17,440
do you vet it because you know

1196
00:50:21,030 --> 00:50:19,680
the same as i do that there are really

1197
00:50:23,030 --> 00:50:21,040
only maybe a few

1198
00:50:24,710 --> 00:50:23,040
thousand actual researchers who actually

1199
00:50:26,630 --> 00:50:24,720
are doing any work

1200
00:50:27,829 --> 00:50:26,640
everybody else is just sort of listening

1201
00:50:29,190 --> 00:50:27,839
to what's going on

1202
00:50:30,630 --> 00:50:29,200
they're not doing any research at all

1203
00:50:31,030 --> 00:50:30,640
and because they're busy with their kids

1204
00:50:41,349 --> 00:50:31,040
and

1205
00:50:43,670 --> 00:50:41,359
kind of a difficult situation where

1206
00:50:45,190 --> 00:50:43,680
um it's almost like you know i remember

1207
00:50:49,430 --> 00:50:45,200
we um

1208
00:50:51,030 --> 00:50:49,440
desta and i were in um um

1209
00:50:52,870 --> 00:50:51,040
tucson arizona we're looking at james

1210
00:50:54,309 --> 00:50:52,880
mcdonald's files and i remember we found

1211
00:50:55,910 --> 00:50:54,319
this letter by jacques valene jacques

1212
00:50:58,470 --> 00:50:55,920
delle has done this for many years and

1213
00:51:00,309 --> 00:50:58,480
it was this 1967 letter from jack valley

1214
00:51:02,230 --> 00:51:00,319
and he said that's it i've had it i'm

1215
00:51:04,069 --> 00:51:02,240
out of this these people are insane i'm

1216
00:51:05,349 --> 00:51:04,079
quitting i'm never coming back in ufos

1217
00:51:05,829 --> 00:51:05,359
and he's done this like every couple

1218
00:51:08,470 --> 00:51:05,839
years

1219
00:51:10,150 --> 00:51:08,480
since 1967 and that's what he's playing

1220
00:51:11,750 --> 00:51:10,160
off is this idea where

1221
00:51:13,109 --> 00:51:11,760
you just run up against this crazy stuff

1222
00:51:14,790 --> 00:51:13,119
and you're spending all your time trying

1223
00:51:17,990 --> 00:51:14,800
to put the crazy stuff down

1224
00:51:19,510 --> 00:51:18,000
and uh it you're just swamped by stories

1225
00:51:21,430 --> 00:51:19,520
because everybody can post

1226
00:51:23,109 --> 00:51:21,440
and they can post like 20 stupid stories

1227
00:51:24,150 --> 00:51:23,119
a day and everybody's got the power of

1228
00:51:27,270 --> 00:51:24,160
the new york times

1229
00:51:32,790 --> 00:51:27,280
now uh looking at uh 2020

1230
00:51:36,390 --> 00:51:32,800
uh what ufo stories uh stick out for you

1231
00:51:38,150 --> 00:51:36,400
well um the the big stories i guess

1232
00:51:40,390 --> 00:51:38,160
the big one it would be the ttsa this

1233
00:51:42,710 --> 00:51:40,400
big move that's just taken place

1234
00:51:44,630 --> 00:51:42,720
and um i see it maybe a little bit

1235
00:51:47,270 --> 00:51:44,640
different than other people do

1236
00:51:49,030 --> 00:51:47,280
the israeli story is another one where

1237
00:51:50,950 --> 00:51:49,040
where there's sort of a debate going on

1238
00:51:53,510 --> 00:51:50,960
is this disinformation

1239
00:51:54,950 --> 00:51:53,520
uh or is this uh this israeli guy

1240
00:51:55,910 --> 00:51:54,960
actually talking about something that's

1241
00:51:58,390 --> 00:51:55,920
real

1242
00:51:59,990 --> 00:51:58,400
and uh the question i have if you're

1243
00:52:01,349 --> 00:52:00,000
going to say that this is disinformation

1244
00:52:04,470 --> 00:52:01,359
from the government

1245
00:52:05,990 --> 00:52:04,480
is the idea that who are we disinforming

1246
00:52:07,990 --> 00:52:06,000
because it's the old deal as there's

1247
00:52:09,829 --> 00:52:08,000
only that many a few researchers

1248
00:52:11,349 --> 00:52:09,839
there's really not that many uh

1249
00:52:13,030 --> 00:52:11,359
researchers to disinform and

1250
00:52:15,109 --> 00:52:13,040
then you get a lot of that in the ufo

1251
00:52:15,430 --> 00:52:15,119
community they people think that that

1252
00:52:18,549 --> 00:52:15,440
we're

1253
00:52:19,829 --> 00:52:18,559
watching us and in a lot of cases i

1254
00:52:22,069 --> 00:52:19,839
don't think the government really

1255
00:52:23,589 --> 00:52:22,079
really cares so the israeli story i

1256
00:52:26,390 --> 00:52:23,599
think was pretty interesting because

1257
00:52:28,069 --> 00:52:26,400
what i what i picked up from that was

1258
00:52:29,430 --> 00:52:28,079
it's not as crazy as you would think it

1259
00:52:29,750 --> 00:52:29,440
is at first i thought it was like one of

1260
00:52:31,910 --> 00:52:29,760
these

1261
00:52:33,430 --> 00:52:31,920
you know crazy conspiracy things or the

1262
00:52:35,109 --> 00:52:33,440
guy was putting it out or whatever

1263
00:52:37,990 --> 00:52:35,119
but when i started to look i realized

1264
00:52:39,829 --> 00:52:38,000
like man there is actual stories

1265
00:52:41,109 --> 00:52:39,839
that back this up and like credible

1266
00:52:42,349 --> 00:52:41,119
stories so i'll give you a couple a

1267
00:52:45,349 --> 00:52:42,359
couple of examples

1268
00:52:47,109 --> 00:52:45,359
1975 bob manager who you may have

1269
00:52:49,430 --> 00:52:47,119
interviewed at some point

1270
00:52:50,390 --> 00:52:49,440
does ufo uh past present future he's

1271
00:52:53,030 --> 00:52:50,400
brought into

1272
00:52:53,750 --> 00:52:53,040
norton air force base by the defense

1273
00:52:55,990 --> 00:52:53,760
department

1274
00:52:57,829 --> 00:52:56,000
to do this ufo documentary and they give

1275
00:52:59,510 --> 00:52:57,839
them the holloman air force base film

1276
00:53:02,150 --> 00:52:59,520
and this is the film where supposedly

1277
00:53:03,589 --> 00:53:02,160
the ufo's land at holland air force base

1278
00:53:05,190 --> 00:53:03,599
and when it's all said and done i'm

1279
00:53:07,109 --> 00:53:05,200
interviewing bob i dealt

1280
00:53:08,549 --> 00:53:07,119
a lot of time with him and i said to bob

1281
00:53:10,230 --> 00:53:08,559
i said you know bob you know

1282
00:53:11,750 --> 00:53:10,240
there's eight seconds of film in that

1283
00:53:12,790 --> 00:53:11,760
thing you told me you took it back to

1284
00:53:15,270 --> 00:53:12,800
the pentagon

1285
00:53:16,710 --> 00:53:15,280
and uh he said well yeah and i said well

1286
00:53:18,150 --> 00:53:16,720
you told me that they took it back

1287
00:53:19,190 --> 00:53:18,160
well no that was that was just

1288
00:53:20,710 --> 00:53:19,200
background that's what you mean was

1289
00:53:22,230 --> 00:53:20,720
background well it didn't show anything

1290
00:53:23,270 --> 00:53:22,240
so you have actually eight seconds of

1291
00:53:25,430 --> 00:53:23,280
actual footage

1292
00:53:27,030 --> 00:53:25,440
from the holland air force base film the

1293
00:53:29,349 --> 00:53:27,040
nis people contacted me

1294
00:53:31,510 --> 00:53:29,359
uh there was a big hunt uh christopher

1295
00:53:33,270 --> 00:53:31,520
dodd the senator went after this film

1296
00:53:34,549 --> 00:53:33,280
i know hell put off and and these guys

1297
00:53:36,870 --> 00:53:34,559
were looking trying to

1298
00:53:38,069 --> 00:53:36,880
backtrack this film it appears that that

1299
00:53:39,750 --> 00:53:38,079
film actually did

1300
00:53:41,589 --> 00:53:39,760
that film actually existed that there

1301
00:53:42,069 --> 00:53:41,599
was a landing so that would indicate

1302
00:53:44,710 --> 00:53:42,079
that there

1303
00:53:45,510 --> 00:53:44,720
was this contact between high level

1304
00:53:47,589 --> 00:53:45,520
officials

1305
00:53:49,030 --> 00:53:47,599
and beings so it's not as crazy as you

1306
00:53:50,309 --> 00:53:49,040
think it is when you start looking at

1307
00:53:52,069 --> 00:53:50,319
the stories the other one was

1308
00:53:54,069 --> 00:53:52,079
in the 1980s and i don't know if you

1309
00:53:55,430 --> 00:53:54,079
were around chasing all the stuff but

1310
00:53:56,470 --> 00:53:55,440
there was the big story then was the

1311
00:53:58,630 --> 00:53:56,480
whole thing about the

1312
00:54:00,230 --> 00:53:58,640
the live alien story and linda howe

1313
00:54:00,790 --> 00:54:00,240
tells the story of being offered to go

1314
00:54:03,910 --> 00:54:00,800
and and

1315
00:54:06,790 --> 00:54:03,920
and uh interview the keeper of the the

1316
00:54:08,150 --> 00:54:06,800
ebe one the first uh live alien and she

1317
00:54:09,109 --> 00:54:08,160
tells this whole story about you know

1318
00:54:11,430 --> 00:54:09,119
going to self

1319
00:54:12,309 --> 00:54:11,440
to um pay phones and it's like a spy

1320
00:54:13,750 --> 00:54:12,319
novel type thing

1321
00:54:15,190 --> 00:54:13,760
and the night before she bought the

1322
00:54:15,910 --> 00:54:15,200
ticket to go to houston and they they

1323
00:54:17,829 --> 00:54:15,920
cancelled it

1324
00:54:19,910 --> 00:54:17,839
and bob emeneger taught i talked to him

1325
00:54:20,950 --> 00:54:19,920
about it and he said that's not garbage

1326
00:54:22,390 --> 00:54:20,960
this is mj12 stuff

1327
00:54:24,230 --> 00:54:22,400
my stuff was real they gave me all the

1328
00:54:26,710 --> 00:54:24,240
real stuff and i got to talk to people

1329
00:54:28,309 --> 00:54:26,720
ufos are real all the rest of this mj-12

1330
00:54:29,589 --> 00:54:28,319
it's all richard dodie and all this is

1331
00:54:31,510 --> 00:54:29,599
garbage and stuff like that

1332
00:54:33,190 --> 00:54:31,520
and i said well bob weren't you offered

1333
00:54:34,710 --> 00:54:33,200
an interview with the live alien

1334
00:54:36,390 --> 00:54:34,720
and because bill moore was offered

1335
00:54:36,870 --> 00:54:36,400
whitley strieber was offered linda was

1336
00:54:38,630 --> 00:54:36,880
offered

1337
00:54:40,470 --> 00:54:38,640
and all these people made this offer and

1338
00:54:41,750 --> 00:54:40,480
he said well yeah and i said well who

1339
00:54:43,030 --> 00:54:41,760
offered you the interview with the live

1340
00:54:44,630 --> 00:54:43,040
alien and he said

1341
00:54:46,069 --> 00:54:44,640
a paul charles and i said was paul

1342
00:54:47,510 --> 00:54:46,079
charles reliable he was the security

1343
00:54:48,710 --> 00:54:47,520
manager norton air force base

1344
00:54:51,030 --> 00:54:48,720
he said yeah and i said well there you

1345
00:54:52,549 --> 00:54:51,040
go bob and so there this story of the

1346
00:54:54,630 --> 00:54:52,559
live alien was out there

1347
00:54:55,910 --> 00:54:54,640
that we had this ambassador thing in the

1348
00:54:59,510 --> 00:54:55,920
1980s

1349
00:55:00,069 --> 00:54:59,520
and um then you have the um the story

1350
00:55:01,270 --> 00:55:00,079
that that

1351
00:55:03,109 --> 00:55:01,280
you'll see breaking i don't know if

1352
00:55:04,710 --> 00:55:03,119
you've followed the story there's a tape

1353
00:55:06,549 --> 00:55:04,720
that has leaked out from kit green

1354
00:55:07,750 --> 00:55:06,559
do you know about this tape of the

1355
00:55:11,270 --> 00:55:07,760
talking to the intuitive

1356
00:55:13,190 --> 00:55:11,280
yes i've heard of the tape okay

1357
00:55:14,789 --> 00:55:13,200
so on the tape he's talking to her and

1358
00:55:16,950 --> 00:55:14,799
he's saying who are we dealing with

1359
00:55:18,390 --> 00:55:16,960
and she starts talking about this portal

1360
00:55:20,230 --> 00:55:18,400
off the coast of california

1361
00:55:21,589 --> 00:55:20,240
off catalina island and that's where the

1362
00:55:23,589 --> 00:55:21,599
the nimitz thing happened

1363
00:55:25,829 --> 00:55:23,599
off catalina island and there's high

1364
00:55:28,870 --> 00:55:25,839
level officials meeting with these

1365
00:55:30,390 --> 00:55:28,880
beings and that they are um there's a

1366
00:55:35,030 --> 00:55:30,400
geological

1367
00:55:36,870 --> 00:55:35,040
and it basically refers i think to the

1368
00:55:39,190 --> 00:55:36,880
faults off the coast of california

1369
00:55:40,870 --> 00:55:39,200
and they're letting these officials know

1370
00:55:43,589 --> 00:55:40,880
now kit green is not you know

1371
00:55:44,549 --> 00:55:43,599
uh crazy man uh and he's sitting there

1372
00:55:46,150 --> 00:55:44,559
listening to this story

1373
00:55:48,230 --> 00:55:46,160
on this tape and he's going okay okay

1374
00:55:49,910 --> 00:55:48,240
hang on and he's writing this stuff down

1375
00:55:51,510 --> 00:55:49,920
and you get that and you start to think

1376
00:55:52,150 --> 00:55:51,520
like wow maybe there's something to this

1377
00:55:54,309 --> 00:55:52,160
maybe there

1378
00:55:55,750 --> 00:55:54,319
there is something because this woman

1379
00:55:56,470 --> 00:55:55,760
he's he's referring to her as being

1380
00:55:59,190 --> 00:55:56,480
better than

1381
00:55:59,750 --> 00:55:59,200
than yuri yeller 95 percent accurate and

1382
00:56:01,270 --> 00:55:59,760
all the

1383
00:56:02,950 --> 00:56:01,280
the medical material that she had

1384
00:56:05,589 --> 00:56:02,960
provided him and stuff like that

1385
00:56:07,589 --> 00:56:05,599
and it seemed like um like he and gary

1386
00:56:09,430 --> 00:56:07,599
nolan were dealing with this woman

1387
00:56:10,710 --> 00:56:09,440
so you get these kind of stories that

1388
00:56:12,549 --> 00:56:10,720
indicate yeah or

1389
00:56:14,150 --> 00:56:12,559
there's a story from the canadian

1390
00:56:15,990 --> 00:56:14,160
government

1391
00:56:17,510 --> 00:56:16,000
i worked on that when i first started

1392
00:56:18,390 --> 00:56:17,520
wilbert brockhouse smith was the guy who

1393
00:56:19,829 --> 00:56:18,400
ran the program

1394
00:56:22,150 --> 00:56:19,839
there's a letter that i put on the

1395
00:56:24,870 --> 00:56:22,160
internet a little while ago that showed

1396
00:56:26,069 --> 00:56:24,880
uh wilbert bronchosmith 1959 he writes a

1397
00:56:28,630 --> 00:56:26,079
letter to a guy

1398
00:56:30,390 --> 00:56:28,640
in canada and he says just for your

1399
00:56:32,630 --> 00:56:30,400
information every nation of the world

1400
00:56:34,230 --> 00:56:32,640
has been informed of the existence

1401
00:56:36,470 --> 00:56:34,240
of the visitors or something to that

1402
00:56:38,630 --> 00:56:36,480
effect and what each country does

1403
00:56:40,390 --> 00:56:38,640
is up to them which again indicates that

1404
00:56:42,390 --> 00:56:40,400
there was some sort of contact

1405
00:56:43,510 --> 00:56:42,400
between the intelligence and high-level

1406
00:56:45,430 --> 00:56:43,520
officials so the

1407
00:56:46,710 --> 00:56:45,440
israeli story seems really crazy and

1408
00:56:48,470 --> 00:56:46,720
then you start looking at it

1409
00:56:50,150 --> 00:56:48,480
and that's probably what i think and

1410
00:56:51,910 --> 00:56:50,160
i've written books about this

1411
00:56:53,430 --> 00:56:51,920
where i think what you do if you're

1412
00:56:55,349 --> 00:56:53,440
going to put out a story

1413
00:56:56,870 --> 00:56:55,359
is you do the you take information

1414
00:56:57,270 --> 00:56:56,880
surrounded by disinformation and put it

1415
00:56:58,710 --> 00:56:57,280
out

1416
00:57:00,549 --> 00:56:58,720
because nobody can tell what's real

1417
00:57:01,990 --> 00:57:00,559
what's not real the story gets out

1418
00:57:03,670 --> 00:57:02,000
almost like the bible is our thing

1419
00:57:05,270 --> 00:57:03,680
he's there he actually goes on the base

1420
00:57:06,150 --> 00:57:05,280
he's doing all this kind of stuff but

1421
00:57:07,829 --> 00:57:06,160
they know the whole story is going to

1422
00:57:09,349 --> 00:57:07,839
fall apart as soon as he goes public

1423
00:57:11,030 --> 00:57:09,359
and when he goes public the story falls

1424
00:57:11,990 --> 00:57:11,040
apart and nobody knows whether to

1425
00:57:14,150 --> 00:57:12,000
believe what's going

1426
00:57:15,990 --> 00:57:14,160
on is real and everybody comes up with

1427
00:57:17,190 --> 00:57:16,000
the idea oh area 51. there's ufo stuff

1428
00:57:18,789 --> 00:57:17,200
going on air 51

1429
00:57:21,109 --> 00:57:18,799
but you can't confirm anything and none

1430
00:57:22,549 --> 00:57:21,119
of the stories over the 45 years i've

1431
00:57:24,390 --> 00:57:22,559
worked on you we've never confirmed a

1432
00:57:25,750 --> 00:57:24,400
single story we've got these rumors

1433
00:57:27,670 --> 00:57:25,760
about this probably happened

1434
00:57:29,430 --> 00:57:27,680
but we don't know because that's what

1435
00:57:31,750 --> 00:57:29,440
they're doing is they're using this

1436
00:57:33,349 --> 00:57:31,760
information disinformation thing to keep

1437
00:57:34,470 --> 00:57:33,359
people off guard so nobody can get the

1438
00:57:35,109 --> 00:57:34,480
story because if they want to release

1439
00:57:36,390 --> 00:57:35,119
the story

1440
00:57:37,510 --> 00:57:36,400
the president stands up and tells you

1441
00:57:38,710 --> 00:57:37,520
what's going on and that's not what

1442
00:57:39,670 --> 00:57:38,720
they're doing they're doing this leaked

1443
00:57:42,150 --> 00:57:39,680
thing

1444
00:57:44,230 --> 00:57:42,160
and and nobody can substantiate the leak

1445
00:57:46,549 --> 00:57:44,240
whether it's this triangle

1446
00:57:48,150 --> 00:57:46,559
photo that just came out or what it is

1447
00:57:48,950 --> 00:57:48,160
it's this same pattern all the time you

1448
00:57:52,829 --> 00:57:48,960
leak it

1449
00:57:55,430 --> 00:57:52,839
but you can't confirm it the

1450
00:57:58,950 --> 00:57:55,440
israeli uh uh

1451
00:58:01,030 --> 00:57:58,960
defense official um it turns

1452
00:58:02,549 --> 00:58:01,040
this reflects back to what you just said

1453
00:58:04,630 --> 00:58:02,559
right where you don't know what to

1454
00:58:07,030 --> 00:58:04,640
believe because something will come out

1455
00:58:08,950 --> 00:58:07,040
and that will kill the original story

1456
00:58:10,390 --> 00:58:08,960
now you've got truth in there

1457
00:58:12,150 --> 00:58:10,400
and there's other stuff and you don't

1458
00:58:15,829 --> 00:58:12,160
know what to believe well it

1459
00:58:16,789 --> 00:58:15,839
uh it had come out um i didn't vet this

1460
00:58:20,069 --> 00:58:16,799
source

1461
00:58:23,990 --> 00:58:20,079
but uh completely uh but

1462
00:58:26,870 --> 00:58:24,000
that he was repeating the israeli

1463
00:58:28,789 --> 00:58:26,880
uh defense uh security guy he was

1464
00:58:32,309 --> 00:58:28,799
repeating what he was told

1465
00:58:34,309 --> 00:58:32,319
by his granddaughter and that his

1466
00:58:35,510 --> 00:58:34,319
granddaughter was interested in these

1467
00:58:39,750 --> 00:58:35,520
subjects

1468
00:58:41,990 --> 00:58:39,760
and he wasn't speaking in first person

1469
00:58:44,950 --> 00:58:42,000
he was just relating what his

1470
00:58:46,230 --> 00:58:44,960
granddaughter had told him

1471
00:58:48,069 --> 00:58:46,240
that was that that's sometimes the

1472
00:58:50,230 --> 00:58:48,079
problem paul heller had that problem i

1473
00:58:52,549 --> 00:58:50,240
dealt with paul hellyer in the 1970s

1474
00:58:53,829 --> 00:58:52,559
long before he became interested in ufos

1475
00:58:55,109 --> 00:58:53,839
because he was involved i know if you

1476
00:58:57,270 --> 00:58:55,119
know the story he was involved in a big

1477
00:58:59,910 --> 00:58:57,280
case in 1967 in canada

1478
00:59:01,589 --> 00:58:59,920
where he opened a ufo uh landing base it

1479
00:59:03,910 --> 00:59:01,599
was a centennial project

1480
00:59:04,950 --> 00:59:03,920
a thing that this town had built this uh

1481
00:59:06,710 --> 00:59:04,960
tourist attraction

1482
00:59:08,309 --> 00:59:06,720
a full landing base outside of st paul

1483
00:59:11,349 --> 00:59:08,319
alberta and he went and gave this

1484
00:59:12,789 --> 00:59:11,359
this speech there july the first 1967

1485
00:59:16,069 --> 00:59:12,799
and it was across the front page of all

1486
00:59:17,750 --> 00:59:16,079
newspapers in canada and it said um

1487
00:59:19,430 --> 00:59:17,760
uh he he said you know this isn't the

1488
00:59:22,309 --> 00:59:19,440
first time we've had a ufo lining base

1489
00:59:23,990 --> 00:59:22,319
we built a ufo landing base in 1954 and

1490
00:59:24,630 --> 00:59:24,000
nothing landed therefore ufos don't

1491
00:59:26,630 --> 00:59:24,640
exist

1492
00:59:28,230 --> 00:59:26,640
so of course through the 1970s me and a

1493
00:59:29,510 --> 00:59:28,240
researcher out of ottawa were chasing

1494
00:59:31,990 --> 00:59:29,520
them and we wanted to say like

1495
00:59:32,630 --> 00:59:32,000
okay paul like so how do the aliens know

1496
00:59:33,829 --> 00:59:32,640
where to land

1497
00:59:35,750 --> 00:59:33,839
i mean you can have this story but if

1498
00:59:37,109 --> 00:59:35,760
you open the base the aliens have to

1499
00:59:39,109 --> 00:59:37,119
know where where to land

1500
00:59:41,030 --> 00:59:39,119
there has to be some communication and

1501
00:59:42,950 --> 00:59:41,040
so i went to uh wilbert brockhouse

1502
00:59:43,589 --> 00:59:42,960
smith's wife he had died but his wife is

1503
00:59:46,069 --> 00:59:43,599
still alive

1504
00:59:47,270 --> 00:59:46,079
and i said to her i said hey take a look

1505
00:59:48,950 --> 00:59:47,280
at this story here was

1506
00:59:50,549 --> 00:59:48,960
wilbur involved in this and she read the

1507
00:59:52,309 --> 00:59:50,559
story and she said oh yeah i was wilbur

1508
00:59:53,990 --> 00:59:52,319
and what had happened was wilbur smith

1509
00:59:56,470 --> 00:59:54,000
has said in 1954

1510
00:59:58,150 --> 00:59:56,480
if you uh stop trying to shoot this

1511
00:59:59,430 --> 00:59:58,160
thing down i'll get this alien by the

1512
01:00:01,510 --> 00:59:59,440
name of alpha

1513
01:00:02,789 --> 01:00:01,520
and alpha was an alien that actually was

1514
01:00:06,309 --> 01:00:02,799
channeled at the cia

1515
01:00:08,309 --> 01:00:06,319
um by arthur lundall who

1516
01:00:09,670 --> 01:00:08,319
uh jacques valet was talking about in in

1517
01:00:13,190 --> 01:00:09,680
his latest interview with

1518
01:00:15,030 --> 01:00:13,200
joe rogan and so um

1519
01:00:16,630 --> 01:00:15,040
he he they had this agreement with the

1520
01:00:20,230 --> 01:00:16,640
rook and the amount of police

1521
01:00:21,750 --> 01:00:20,240
the uh the cabinet and the military

1522
01:00:23,589 --> 01:00:21,760
and in the end they would they the

1523
01:00:25,349 --> 01:00:23,599
cabinet would not give a 100 guarantee

1524
01:00:26,069 --> 01:00:25,359
they were allowed to take off again once

1525
01:00:27,270 --> 01:00:26,079
it had landed

1526
01:00:28,630 --> 01:00:27,280
so uber said that said okay we're

1527
01:00:29,829 --> 01:00:28,640
calling it off we're not we're not going

1528
01:00:31,270 --> 01:00:29,839
to do anything

1529
01:00:32,789 --> 01:00:31,280
and so that's how the story happened

1530
01:00:34,069 --> 01:00:32,799
they had it actually opened up that

1531
01:00:34,549 --> 01:00:34,079
wilbur was going to have this thing land

1532
01:00:36,069 --> 01:00:34,559
there

1533
01:00:38,069 --> 01:00:36,079
and he couldn't get the agreement that

1534
01:00:39,030 --> 01:00:38,079
he wanted to to allow this thing to take

1535
01:00:41,510 --> 01:00:39,040
off after the

1536
01:00:42,710 --> 01:00:41,520
encounter with officials took place and

1537
01:00:45,190 --> 01:00:42,720
um so

1538
01:00:46,069 --> 01:00:45,200
paul had the story so now he was he was

1539
01:00:47,990 --> 01:00:46,079
um

1540
01:00:49,829 --> 01:00:48,000
i put he said that he got the story from

1541
01:00:51,030 --> 01:00:49,839
the role canadian mounted police guy who

1542
01:00:52,470 --> 01:00:51,040
was the expert for the defense

1543
01:00:53,589 --> 01:00:52,480
department and he really didn't look at

1544
01:00:55,349 --> 01:00:53,599
ufos he wasn't

1545
01:00:56,950 --> 01:00:55,359
really interested in ufos he was the

1546
01:00:58,150 --> 01:00:56,960
defense minister but he had seen some

1547
01:00:58,789 --> 01:00:58,160
reports but he wasn't interested or

1548
01:01:01,349 --> 01:00:58,799
whatever

1549
01:01:02,390 --> 01:01:01,359
and um so when i talked to him in in

1550
01:01:04,470 --> 01:01:02,400
washington

1551
01:01:05,589 --> 01:01:04,480
he actually said to me said you know i i

1552
01:01:06,870 --> 01:01:05,599
didn't write that speech

1553
01:01:08,950 --> 01:01:06,880
and and i don't remember giving this

1554
01:01:10,309 --> 01:01:08,960
speech and uh so he was sort of

1555
01:01:11,270 --> 01:01:10,319
defending the fact that he really didn't

1556
01:01:13,190 --> 01:01:11,280
know anything

1557
01:01:15,270 --> 01:01:13,200
but what happens is he gets the corso

1558
01:01:17,670 --> 01:01:15,280
book and he's reading it at his

1559
01:01:19,030 --> 01:01:17,680
his cabins north of toronto and his

1560
01:01:20,150 --> 01:01:19,040
son-in-law comes along and his

1561
01:01:20,870 --> 01:01:20,160
son-in-law says what are you reading

1562
01:01:22,950 --> 01:01:20,880
that garbage for

1563
01:01:25,109 --> 01:01:22,960
that's nonsense whatever and he said it

1564
01:01:26,630 --> 01:01:25,119
is and and then he puts the book down

1565
01:01:28,630 --> 01:01:26,640
and then the son is working for this

1566
01:01:30,710 --> 01:01:28,640
general so this two-star general

1567
01:01:32,309 --> 01:01:30,720
and he asks the general my father-in-law

1568
01:01:33,750 --> 01:01:32,319
is reading this stupid book about corso

1569
01:01:35,990 --> 01:01:33,760
and he says and that's when he says well

1570
01:01:37,109 --> 01:01:36,000
it's real so then paul hell your phone's

1571
01:01:38,789 --> 01:01:37,119
the two-star general

1572
01:01:41,190 --> 01:01:38,799
and that's when the general says it's

1573
01:01:42,630 --> 01:01:41,200
all real and more and then paul goes off

1574
01:01:44,470 --> 01:01:42,640
the deep end then he then he

1575
01:01:45,990 --> 01:01:44,480
everything that he hears he's he's

1576
01:01:46,470 --> 01:01:46,000
basically repeating what everybody else

1577
01:01:50,870 --> 01:01:46,480
is

1578
01:01:51,589 --> 01:01:50,880
the material the way you and i would vet

1579
01:01:53,190 --> 01:01:51,599
the material

1580
01:01:54,870 --> 01:01:53,200
and so he's repeated a lot of these

1581
01:01:55,750 --> 01:01:54,880
stories as well and it's worked to our

1582
01:01:57,430 --> 01:01:55,760
benefit because he's

1583
01:01:59,670 --> 01:01:57,440
this very powerful guy and a lot of

1584
01:02:00,630 --> 01:01:59,680
people give credibility to ufos because

1585
01:02:02,390 --> 01:02:00,640
he's talking

1586
01:02:04,150 --> 01:02:02,400
well yeah let me let me jump in right

1587
01:02:06,230 --> 01:02:04,160
there i got to take a break

1588
01:02:08,549 --> 01:02:06,240
okay got to take a break i gotta i gotta

1589
01:02:09,430 --> 01:02:08,559
pay the bills there grant this is fade

1590
01:02:11,270 --> 01:02:09,440
to black

1591
01:02:13,029 --> 01:02:11,280
i guess tonight grant cameron this is

1592
01:02:16,789 --> 01:02:13,039
our second to last show

1593
01:02:18,950 --> 01:02:16,799
in 2020 only the best will do

1594
01:02:20,549 --> 01:02:18,960
for all of you tonight grant cameron i

1595
01:02:21,589 --> 01:02:20,559
am your host jimmy church on the game

1596
01:02:24,150 --> 01:02:21,599
changer network

1597
01:02:25,589 --> 01:02:24,160
and kgra the planet more with grant

1598
01:02:34,940 --> 01:02:25,599
after this short break

1599
01:02:43,029 --> 01:02:34,950
stay with us

1600
01:02:45,270 --> 01:02:43,039
[Music]

1601
01:02:47,589 --> 01:02:45,280
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1602
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1603
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01:07:16,230 --> 01:07:14,160
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01:07:46,549 --> 01:07:43,760
back fade to black i'm your host jimmy

1728
01:07:49,029 --> 01:07:46,559
church tonight grant cameron is here

1729
01:07:52,630 --> 01:07:49,039
tomorrow night dr steven greer our last

1730
01:07:54,549 --> 01:07:52,640
show of 2020 today

1731
01:07:56,309 --> 01:07:54,559
with grant we're talking about you know

1732
01:07:59,190 --> 01:07:56,319
what went down in 2020

1733
01:08:00,230 --> 01:07:59,200
and a lot did and we closed out the year

1734
01:08:02,230 --> 01:08:00,240
pretty crazy

1735
01:08:03,510 --> 01:08:02,240
uh in the ufo community so we'll be

1736
01:08:04,230 --> 01:08:03,520
talking about all of that and then of

1737
01:08:07,270 --> 01:08:04,240
course

1738
01:08:08,950 --> 01:08:07,280
what we can expect in 2021

1739
01:08:11,990 --> 01:08:08,960
and we were talking about right before

1740
01:08:15,109 --> 01:08:12,000
the break uh grant uh paul hellyer

1741
01:08:18,229 --> 01:08:15,119
and the more that this is just

1742
01:08:21,430 --> 01:08:18,239
me you may know more about this but did

1743
01:08:24,870 --> 01:08:21,440
paul gather his information

1744
01:08:27,990 --> 01:08:24,880
uh from the internet right or from

1745
01:08:30,070 --> 01:08:28,000
corso's book is is that what we're

1746
01:08:31,910 --> 01:08:30,080
actually dealing with here

1747
01:08:33,430 --> 01:08:31,920
yeah yeah he got he just basically was

1748
01:08:34,229 --> 01:08:33,440
listening to stories people were telling

1749
01:08:37,269 --> 01:08:34,239
him

1750
01:08:39,030 --> 01:08:37,279
he did have one story that um so he had

1751
01:08:40,149 --> 01:08:39,040
the story that he talked to this general

1752
01:08:41,910 --> 01:08:40,159
the two-star general

1753
01:08:43,510 --> 01:08:41,920
that was one thing that he had for sure

1754
01:08:45,110 --> 01:08:43,520
the other thing he had we were at a

1755
01:08:46,789 --> 01:08:45,120
conference in ontario

1756
01:08:49,349 --> 01:08:46,799
and they were asking him they said to

1757
01:08:50,470 --> 01:08:49,359
him who in canada would know like who in

1758
01:08:52,789 --> 01:08:50,480
the government would know what's going

1759
01:08:54,390 --> 01:08:52,799
on that's been read in and he said well

1760
01:08:55,669 --> 01:08:54,400
the head of the privy council he's

1761
01:08:57,990 --> 01:08:55,679
naming these different things and you

1762
01:08:59,590 --> 01:08:58,000
could tell he really didn't know and

1763
01:09:01,430 --> 01:08:59,600
so it went around and it was like a

1764
01:09:03,910 --> 01:09:01,440
citizen's hearing except they were using

1765
01:09:04,950 --> 01:09:03,920
reporters so it came around the second

1766
01:09:06,390 --> 01:09:04,960
round of questions

1767
01:09:08,070 --> 01:09:06,400
and that at that point paul's sitting

1768
01:09:09,349 --> 01:09:08,080
right beside me and he tells this very

1769
01:09:11,349 --> 01:09:09,359
bizarre story he says

1770
01:09:12,390 --> 01:09:11,359
you know i do know one guy that that

1771
01:09:14,709 --> 01:09:12,400
that knows

1772
01:09:16,630 --> 01:09:14,719
that would know and he said i got this

1773
01:09:17,590 --> 01:09:16,640
phone call from a guy in the air force

1774
01:09:20,070 --> 01:09:17,600
and he said

1775
01:09:20,870 --> 01:09:20,080
uh the the former head of emergency

1776
01:09:22,709 --> 01:09:20,880
management

1777
01:09:25,669 --> 01:09:22,719
and that would be the head of your fema

1778
01:09:27,349 --> 01:09:25,679
the he's he's dying of als of lou gehrig

1779
01:09:29,110 --> 01:09:27,359
lou gehrig's disease and he's got

1780
01:09:30,630 --> 01:09:29,120
something he wants to get off his chest

1781
01:09:33,110 --> 01:09:30,640
and he's decided you're the guy he wants

1782
01:09:34,630 --> 01:09:33,120
to talk to and i'm thinking wow it's

1783
01:09:37,510 --> 01:09:34,640
like and and so he says

1784
01:09:38,709 --> 01:09:37,520
i i don't phone the guy and i said i

1785
01:09:40,229 --> 01:09:38,719
phoned him but i didn't phone him and

1786
01:09:41,269 --> 01:09:40,239
then the air force guy phones paul back

1787
01:09:42,789 --> 01:09:41,279
and he says paul

1788
01:09:44,630 --> 01:09:42,799
he's about to go off the cliff you

1789
01:09:45,749 --> 01:09:44,640
better give him a call so he phones him

1790
01:09:47,430 --> 01:09:45,759
and the guy says

1791
01:09:49,749 --> 01:09:47,440
i just want to let you know it's for

1792
01:09:50,470 --> 01:09:49,759
real i this is for real i actually was

1793
01:09:53,829 --> 01:09:50,480
right in

1794
01:09:54,950 --> 01:09:53,839
i was taken to uh langley i assigned my

1795
01:09:57,590 --> 01:09:54,960
life away

1796
01:09:59,430 --> 01:09:57,600
and i was actually taken to area 51 and

1797
01:10:03,030 --> 01:09:59,440
actually sat in one of the crafts

1798
01:10:04,790 --> 01:10:03,040
and um so this is a deathbed confession

1799
01:10:06,550 --> 01:10:04,800
thing that he'd given to paul ellier

1800
01:10:07,990 --> 01:10:06,560
so those two stories he had but the rest

1801
01:10:08,550 --> 01:10:08,000
of it he was just sort of picking up

1802
01:10:11,910 --> 01:10:08,560
from

1803
01:10:14,070 --> 01:10:11,920
and we were

1804
01:10:15,750 --> 01:10:14,080
we're picking up and we're trying to um

1805
01:10:16,310 --> 01:10:15,760
you know sort out what it what's going

1806
01:10:18,470 --> 01:10:16,320
on

1807
01:10:19,669 --> 01:10:18,480
but paul you know he he a lot of people

1808
01:10:21,110 --> 01:10:19,679
criticized him because

1809
01:10:22,950 --> 01:10:21,120
you know some of the stuff was really

1810
01:10:23,590 --> 01:10:22,960
far out stuff that he was sort of buying

1811
01:10:25,830 --> 01:10:23,600
into

1812
01:10:27,590 --> 01:10:25,840
but in terms of his privates his his

1813
01:10:29,510 --> 01:10:27,600
personal stuff he just had the general

1814
01:10:30,630 --> 01:10:29,520
he had that incident with the head of

1815
01:10:32,470 --> 01:10:30,640
emergency management

1816
01:10:33,990 --> 01:10:32,480
and he said he saw a couple of sighting

1817
01:10:35,430 --> 01:10:34,000
reports come across his desk

1818
01:10:37,189 --> 01:10:35,440
when he was the defense minister but he

1819
01:10:39,430 --> 01:10:37,199
really wasn't interested in it

1820
01:10:41,030 --> 01:10:39,440
very interesting i i always thought that

1821
01:10:43,750 --> 01:10:41,040
about paul

1822
01:10:44,310 --> 01:10:43,760
i never had him on the show because i

1823
01:10:47,750 --> 01:10:44,320
felt that

1824
01:10:51,590 --> 01:10:47,760
you know firsthand you know

1825
01:10:54,950 --> 01:10:51,600
real like this guy from israel is this a

1826
01:10:58,390 --> 01:10:54,960
first you know first person uh

1827
01:11:02,630 --> 01:10:58,400
uh situation the the israeli

1828
01:11:04,310 --> 01:11:02,640
security uh chief he never said i

1829
01:11:06,550 --> 01:11:04,320
you know he never said i was part of

1830
01:11:09,590 --> 01:11:06,560
these negotiations with israel

1831
01:11:11,110 --> 01:11:09,600
and e.t i was part of this i was you

1832
01:11:14,870 --> 01:11:11,120
know he never said that

1833
01:11:16,390 --> 01:11:14,880
it was um it was all in the third person

1834
01:11:18,070 --> 01:11:16,400
so i just thought man there's something

1835
01:11:21,110 --> 01:11:18,080
funky here so

1836
01:11:22,390 --> 01:11:21,120
um the one story that that is big that

1837
01:11:24,709 --> 01:11:22,400
i think everybody's overlooked because

1838
01:11:26,310 --> 01:11:24,719
i'm the president guy uh when a

1839
01:11:28,149 --> 01:11:26,320
president talks i listen very carefully

1840
01:11:28,950 --> 01:11:28,159
and obama made a statement which is one

1841
01:11:30,550 --> 01:11:28,960
of the most

1842
01:11:32,790 --> 01:11:30,560
powerful statements that any president's

1843
01:11:34,229 --> 01:11:32,800
ever made and that's when he's talking

1844
01:11:36,310 --> 01:11:34,239
and he's being interviewed

1845
01:11:38,950 --> 01:11:36,320
and he talks about he was asked the

1846
01:11:39,510 --> 01:11:38,960
question have you ever been refused any

1847
01:11:40,550 --> 01:11:39,520
information

1848
01:11:42,630 --> 01:11:40,560
you know that's a big question in the

1849
01:11:43,990 --> 01:11:42,640
ufo committee does the president know is

1850
01:11:45,830 --> 01:11:44,000
the president read in

1851
01:11:47,750 --> 01:11:45,840
or is he told uh shut up you know we'll

1852
01:11:50,070 --> 01:11:47,760
you know we'll kill you if you uh

1853
01:11:52,149 --> 01:11:50,080
you know don't you know move to the side

1854
01:11:53,270 --> 01:11:52,159
or whatever and i always i've moved back

1855
01:11:54,229 --> 01:11:53,280
and forth the president knows the

1856
01:11:56,550 --> 01:11:54,239
president doesn't know

1857
01:11:57,750 --> 01:11:56,560
and i always pointed out that that the

1858
01:11:58,550 --> 01:11:57,760
president doesn't have a security

1859
01:12:00,870 --> 01:11:58,560
clearance

1860
01:12:02,709 --> 01:12:00,880
that all security stuff goes through the

1861
01:12:04,070 --> 01:12:02,719
president of the united states

1862
01:12:05,750 --> 01:12:04,080
uh through the executive office of the

1863
01:12:07,110 --> 01:12:05,760
president he's the guy that hands out

1864
01:12:09,030 --> 01:12:07,120
the security clearances

1865
01:12:10,630 --> 01:12:09,040
and he's the head of state so if you're

1866
01:12:11,189 --> 01:12:10,640
negotiating with foreign power with

1867
01:12:12,229 --> 01:12:11,199
aliens

1868
01:12:14,310 --> 01:12:12,239
you have to have the head of state you

1869
01:12:15,590 --> 01:12:14,320
can't use some lower level person

1870
01:12:17,270 --> 01:12:15,600
and there was five different reasons

1871
01:12:17,750 --> 01:12:17,280
that indicated the president had to be a

1872
01:12:19,510 --> 01:12:17,760
part of it

1873
01:12:21,590 --> 01:12:19,520
so when obama's asked the question where

1874
01:12:24,470 --> 01:12:21,600
you ever refused information

1875
01:12:26,149 --> 01:12:24,480
and he said no and he and then the guy

1876
01:12:27,669 --> 01:12:26,159
of course immediately says well what

1877
01:12:30,310 --> 01:12:27,679
about the ufo stuff

1878
01:12:31,510 --> 01:12:30,320
and he said yeah i looked for it which

1879
01:12:33,669 --> 01:12:31,520
indicates yes he

1880
01:12:34,630 --> 01:12:33,679
found it and that's when he said well

1881
01:12:35,750 --> 01:12:34,640
are you he said

1882
01:12:38,229 --> 01:12:35,760
i'm not going to talk i can't talk about

1883
01:12:41,830 --> 01:12:38,239
it and then he stated that it took a

1884
01:12:43,750 --> 01:12:41,840
a lot of power a lot of a lot of work to

1885
01:12:45,510 --> 01:12:43,760
get it out of the bowels of the pentagon

1886
01:12:47,110 --> 01:12:45,520
and that's what i've always said is that

1887
01:12:48,229 --> 01:12:47,120
you may have people in there you've got

1888
01:12:48,950 --> 01:12:48,239
to find the guy who's got the

1889
01:12:49,990 --> 01:12:48,960
information

1890
01:12:51,110 --> 01:12:50,000
because you know what it's like there's

1891
01:12:53,350 --> 01:12:51,120
all these different departments and

1892
01:12:54,470 --> 01:12:53,360
whatever that is maybe the president has

1893
01:12:56,070 --> 01:12:54,480
to find the guy

1894
01:12:57,669 --> 01:12:56,080
but i remember there was an interview

1895
01:12:59,350 --> 01:12:57,679
that that fox had done with

1896
01:13:00,870 --> 01:12:59,360
with pedestal i'm pretty sure pedestal

1897
01:13:02,470 --> 01:13:00,880
used that were those words as well

1898
01:13:04,070 --> 01:13:02,480
well on a 600 billion dollar

1899
01:13:05,189 --> 01:13:04,080
establishment like the pentagon

1900
01:13:07,110 --> 01:13:05,199
there's you know he talked about the

1901
01:13:08,790 --> 01:13:07,120
bowels like they would be deeply hidden

1902
01:13:11,030 --> 01:13:08,800
and it's almost like podesta went on

1903
01:13:12,070 --> 01:13:11,040
this this track so i mean i'm interested

1904
01:13:15,110 --> 01:13:12,080
in next year

1905
01:13:18,310 --> 01:13:15,120
uh obama's files are coming open and

1906
01:13:18,950 --> 01:13:18,320
um so it's foia it's first come first

1907
01:13:20,390 --> 01:13:18,960
serve

1908
01:13:22,310 --> 01:13:20,400
and i will be first in line i'll

1909
01:13:23,110 --> 01:13:22,320
guarantee you i will be filing at 1201

1910
01:13:24,790 --> 01:13:23,120
in the morning

1911
01:13:26,310 --> 01:13:24,800
and i will have all the questions about

1912
01:13:28,070 --> 01:13:26,320
podesta's conversations

1913
01:13:29,910 --> 01:13:28,080
ufos and this sort of stuff because he

1914
01:13:30,950 --> 01:13:29,920
indicated basically he said i can't talk

1915
01:13:33,350 --> 01:13:30,960
about it

1916
01:13:34,550 --> 01:13:33,360
and uh bush had the same thing when he

1917
01:13:38,310 --> 01:13:34,560
was questioned by

1918
01:13:39,990 --> 01:13:38,320
um uh the night to tonight's show

1919
01:13:41,350 --> 01:13:40,000
he said the same thing they said you

1920
01:13:42,149 --> 01:13:41,360
know did you go look for the ufo

1921
01:13:44,149 --> 01:13:42,159
information

1922
01:13:45,510 --> 01:13:44,159
when you got sworn in and then he said

1923
01:13:46,229 --> 01:13:45,520
oh my daughters asked me the same

1924
01:13:47,350 --> 01:13:46,239
question

1925
01:13:48,950 --> 01:13:47,360
and then he said what do you tell your

1926
01:13:49,590 --> 01:13:48,960
daughter nothing so you're not telling

1927
01:13:51,669 --> 01:13:49,600
us anything

1928
01:13:53,110 --> 01:13:51,679
not telling you nothing which indicates

1929
01:13:54,470 --> 01:13:53,120
the president does know and that

1930
01:13:56,229 --> 01:13:54,480
i think a lot of people slipped over

1931
01:13:57,910 --> 01:13:56,239
that the fact that obama

1932
01:14:00,070 --> 01:13:57,920
was very he's always been interested we

1933
01:14:02,070 --> 01:14:00,080
know that he's been interested in ufos

1934
01:14:03,189 --> 01:14:02,080
podesta was in there podesta was his

1935
01:14:04,950 --> 01:14:03,199
chief uh

1936
01:14:06,709 --> 01:14:04,960
council guy who could talk to him his

1937
01:14:08,470 --> 01:14:06,719
records are exempt he could

1938
01:14:10,149 --> 01:14:08,480
privately talk to the president for a

1939
01:14:12,310 --> 01:14:10,159
whole year and then when

1940
01:14:14,149 --> 01:14:12,320
when when a podesta said he said once

1941
01:14:16,630 --> 01:14:14,159
again my biggest disappointment

1942
01:14:18,310 --> 01:14:16,640
in 2014 was not getting ufo disclosure

1943
01:14:19,669 --> 01:14:18,320
as if he talked to clinton about it and

1944
01:14:20,550 --> 01:14:19,679
clinton wouldn't do it and obama

1945
01:14:21,910 --> 01:14:20,560
wouldn't do it

1946
01:14:24,390 --> 01:14:21,920
and that they had actually found the

1947
01:14:25,350 --> 01:14:24,400
documents and so that indicates that if

1948
01:14:27,270 --> 01:14:25,360
that's true

1949
01:14:29,110 --> 01:14:27,280
that the president knows and he's

1950
01:14:29,750 --> 01:14:29,120
keeping secret that indicates that

1951
01:14:32,709 --> 01:14:29,760
whatever

1952
01:14:34,630 --> 01:14:32,719
the secret is that people believe that

1953
01:14:36,310 --> 01:14:34,640
it's legitimately classified

1954
01:14:37,669 --> 01:14:36,320
and there is a national security reason

1955
01:14:40,630 --> 01:14:37,679
for not talking about it

1956
01:14:42,310 --> 01:14:40,640
the uh one of the other big stories i

1957
01:14:45,830 --> 01:14:42,320
want to get to ttsa

1958
01:14:47,990 --> 01:14:45,840
uh in in a second uh one of the other

1959
01:14:51,510 --> 01:14:48,000
big stories of the year was majes

1960
01:14:53,669 --> 01:14:51,520
brazil that a ufo crashed down there

1961
01:14:54,550 --> 01:14:53,679
the united states military was

1962
01:14:58,630 --> 01:14:54,560
dispatched

1963
01:15:01,669 --> 01:14:58,640
to go and recover this craft a lot of

1964
01:15:03,110 --> 01:15:01,679
pretty crazy videos were were put out

1965
01:15:06,149 --> 01:15:03,120
there on the net

1966
01:15:06,950 --> 01:15:06,159
some of them uh were scrubbed from the

1967
01:15:09,510 --> 01:15:06,960
net

1968
01:15:10,229 --> 01:15:09,520
uh it was a pretty huge breaking story

1969
01:15:13,750 --> 01:15:10,239
and then

1970
01:15:15,270 --> 01:15:13,760
nearly immediately uh died on the vine

1971
01:15:18,149 --> 01:15:15,280
what do you think ultimately happened

1972
01:15:19,750 --> 01:15:18,159
down in majay brazil

1973
01:15:21,430 --> 01:15:19,760
i don't know i was sort of following it

1974
01:15:23,350 --> 01:15:21,440
i had a guy who i was going to interview

1975
01:15:24,950 --> 01:15:23,360
who claimed he was working on it he was

1976
01:15:27,189 --> 01:15:24,960
there

1977
01:15:28,390 --> 01:15:27,199
that's the thing is the ability to shut

1978
01:15:30,070 --> 01:15:28,400
it down the same thing happened in

1979
01:15:31,669 --> 01:15:30,080
virginia where they

1980
01:15:34,229 --> 01:15:31,679
there was a story about virginia where

1981
01:15:36,149 --> 01:15:34,239
the nassau came in

1982
01:15:37,750 --> 01:15:36,159
and that there was this agreement to put

1983
01:15:40,950 --> 01:15:37,760
a brazilian

1984
01:15:43,110 --> 01:15:40,960
on the space space shuttle and

1985
01:15:43,990 --> 01:15:43,120
uh in exchange for the bodies and and

1986
01:15:45,590 --> 01:15:44,000
that kind of stuff

1987
01:15:47,110 --> 01:15:45,600
that the americans hold an awful lot of

1988
01:15:48,470 --> 01:15:47,120
power around the world

1989
01:15:50,790 --> 01:15:48,480
they can cut off people's military

1990
01:15:53,189 --> 01:15:50,800
budgets their economic budgets

1991
01:15:54,550 --> 01:15:53,199
they can exempt a pile and and so there

1992
01:15:57,430 --> 01:15:54,560
may be a deal where the

1993
01:15:58,229 --> 01:15:57,440
american whoever is running the thing

1994
01:15:59,590 --> 01:15:58,239
walks in there

1995
01:16:01,189 --> 01:15:59,600
because they would have a plan and that

1996
01:16:01,910 --> 01:16:01,199
that's what people sort of forget all

1997
01:16:03,430 --> 01:16:01,920
the time

1998
01:16:05,270 --> 01:16:03,440
is that the government plans everything

1999
01:16:06,550 --> 01:16:05,280
they're not going to sit there and wait

2000
01:16:07,910 --> 01:16:06,560
for a crash to and then

2001
01:16:09,430 --> 01:16:07,920
start working on plans of how we're

2002
01:16:10,790 --> 01:16:09,440
going to recover the craft or whatever

2003
01:16:12,870 --> 01:16:10,800
they've been working on this

2004
01:16:14,790 --> 01:16:12,880
forever and they would have a plan so i

2005
01:16:15,750 --> 01:16:14,800
think what what probably happens is they

2006
01:16:17,270 --> 01:16:15,760
they walk in

2007
01:16:19,030 --> 01:16:17,280
they grab all the material and they

2008
01:16:20,630 --> 01:16:19,040
exchange information

2009
01:16:22,390 --> 01:16:20,640
with the top-level people we'll exchange

2010
01:16:24,070 --> 01:16:22,400
the material but we can handle it you

2011
01:16:26,070 --> 01:16:24,080
don't have the resources to do it

2012
01:16:27,270 --> 01:16:26,080
and if you don't go along with this

2013
01:16:28,149 --> 01:16:27,280
you're going to lose all your defense

2014
01:16:29,990 --> 01:16:28,159
budget you're going to

2015
01:16:31,189 --> 01:16:30,000
we're going to you know blackball you

2016
01:16:33,510 --> 01:16:31,199
and whatever they're going to

2017
01:16:35,189 --> 01:16:33,520
say and the a smaller country will

2018
01:16:36,630 --> 01:16:35,199
immediately fold and hand it over

2019
01:16:39,189 --> 01:16:36,640
because people always ask me

2020
01:16:41,110 --> 01:16:39,199
i've been in canada i i know from 50 to

2021
01:16:44,229 --> 01:16:41,120
54 the canadians worked on it

2022
01:16:45,750 --> 01:16:44,239
and then they they shut it down

2023
01:16:47,750 --> 01:16:45,760
and people ask me who's running it in

2024
01:16:48,790 --> 01:16:47,760
canada and i go i haven't got enough i

2025
01:16:50,149 --> 01:16:48,800
haven't got the clue because

2026
01:16:51,750 --> 01:16:50,159
they don't talk about it and i think

2027
01:16:53,510 --> 01:16:51,760
that's what the canadians have done is

2028
01:16:54,390 --> 01:16:53,520
you all you need is one guy in each

2029
01:16:56,870 --> 01:16:54,400
department

2030
01:16:57,990 --> 01:16:56,880
to pass the material up to the top you

2031
01:16:59,750 --> 01:16:58,000
don't need everybody to know what's

2032
01:17:00,149 --> 01:16:59,760
going on you have these sort of moles in

2033
01:17:01,910 --> 01:17:00,159
each

2034
01:17:04,550 --> 01:17:01,920
department that move the material and i

2035
01:17:05,830 --> 01:17:04,560
have no clue in 45 years i have no clue

2036
01:17:06,310 --> 01:17:05,840
what the what the canadian government is

2037
01:17:08,229 --> 01:17:06,320
doing

2038
01:17:09,350 --> 01:17:08,239
i have no clue who knows what's going on

2039
01:17:10,709 --> 01:17:09,360
except paul heller

2040
01:17:12,709 --> 01:17:10,719
telling the story about the head of

2041
01:17:14,790 --> 01:17:12,719
emergency management which makes sense

2042
01:17:15,669 --> 01:17:14,800
if there's a crash the head of emergency

2043
01:17:16,950 --> 01:17:15,679
management management's gonna have all

2044
01:17:18,630 --> 01:17:16,960
the contingency plans

2045
01:17:20,630 --> 01:17:18,640
put money in the banks all these

2046
01:17:22,790 --> 01:17:20,640
contingencies for floods

2047
01:17:24,070 --> 01:17:22,800
you know nuclear war all these kind of

2048
01:17:25,669 --> 01:17:24,080
things and that would be a guy that made

2049
01:17:28,790 --> 01:17:25,679
sense that that guy would be read in

2050
01:17:29,910 --> 01:17:28,800
but i have no clue i have no no idea and

2051
01:17:31,430 --> 01:17:29,920
that's why it's so interesting in the

2052
01:17:32,709 --> 01:17:31,440
united states is everybody's leaking

2053
01:17:34,790 --> 01:17:32,719
everybody's talking

2054
01:17:36,550 --> 01:17:34,800
and every other country it's completely

2055
01:17:37,750 --> 01:17:36,560
silent which would indicate that the

2056
01:17:39,510 --> 01:17:37,760
americans are running the show

2057
01:17:41,030 --> 01:17:39,520
that the americans have it and they are

2058
01:17:41,830 --> 01:17:41,040
controlling they are they're putting out

2059
01:17:42,950 --> 01:17:41,840
the leaks

2060
01:17:44,630 --> 01:17:42,960
they're putting out all that kind of

2061
01:17:45,350 --> 01:17:44,640
stuff that they have sort of been handed

2062
01:18:01,030 --> 01:17:45,360
the

2063
01:18:02,630 --> 01:18:01,040
and that's why you have so many so many

2064
01:18:05,830 --> 01:18:02,640
engagements with the us military

2065
01:18:06,709 --> 01:18:05,840
and ufos yeah i had uh two or three

2066
01:18:10,390 --> 01:18:06,719
people down in

2067
01:18:12,229 --> 01:18:10,400
in brazil that uh was feeding me

2068
01:18:13,669 --> 01:18:12,239
information and it was it was pretty

2069
01:18:17,350 --> 01:18:13,679
good while

2070
01:18:20,310 --> 01:18:17,360
the case was out there and then

2071
01:18:22,229 --> 01:18:20,320
the information just stopped and i think

2072
01:18:25,430 --> 01:18:22,239
one of the email addresses

2073
01:18:27,990 --> 01:18:25,440
uh went bad but the correspondence

2074
01:18:28,550 --> 01:18:28,000
just stopped it was it was just really

2075
01:18:30,470 --> 01:18:28,560
strange

2076
01:18:32,390 --> 01:18:30,480
now let's say it's all a hoax like it

2077
01:18:34,149 --> 01:18:32,400
was just a made-up story

2078
01:18:35,430 --> 01:18:34,159
well i didn't even get hoaxed

2079
01:18:38,950 --> 01:18:35,440
information back

2080
01:18:41,990 --> 01:18:38,960
right i i didn't get anything though the

2081
01:18:43,510 --> 01:18:42,000
the entire case was shut down uh

2082
01:18:45,830 --> 01:18:43,520
that's that's i mean that's the problem

2083
01:18:48,390 --> 01:18:45,840
i always have with these hoax stories is

2084
01:18:49,669 --> 01:18:48,400
uh and i know steve was was was saying

2085
01:18:50,630 --> 01:18:49,679
this disinformation thing about the

2086
01:18:52,470 --> 01:18:50,640
israeli guy

2087
01:18:53,990 --> 01:18:52,480
and i'm going like this this never makes

2088
01:18:55,910 --> 01:18:54,000
any sense to me because

2089
01:18:57,110 --> 01:18:55,920
there just is no researchers there's

2090
01:19:00,310 --> 01:18:57,120
nobody there's there's

2091
01:19:01,830 --> 01:19:00,320
who are they disinforming uh there's not

2092
01:19:03,430 --> 01:19:01,840
that many researchers we think that you

2093
01:19:04,550 --> 01:19:03,440
know everybody's interested but you know

2094
01:19:05,189 --> 01:19:04,560
if you go talk to your friends and

2095
01:19:06,630 --> 01:19:05,199
relatives

2096
01:19:08,630 --> 01:19:06,640
they'll listen to you because they know

2097
01:19:09,830 --> 01:19:08,640
jimmy's into ufos grants and ufos don't

2098
01:19:11,510 --> 01:19:09,840
argue with ground about ufos because

2099
01:19:13,270 --> 01:19:11,520
he'll talk till you fall over

2100
01:19:15,189 --> 01:19:13,280
so people will sit there but you can see

2101
01:19:17,750 --> 01:19:15,199
their eyes rolling back most people

2102
01:19:19,189 --> 01:19:17,760
are just not interested in ufos and

2103
01:19:20,709 --> 01:19:19,199
because you and i have had sightings or

2104
01:19:21,350 --> 01:19:20,719
we've had you know encounters and stuff

2105
01:19:22,630 --> 01:19:21,360
like that

2106
01:19:24,149 --> 01:19:22,640
but if you're you're if you're

2107
01:19:25,110 --> 01:19:24,159
disinforming who are you really

2108
01:19:26,550 --> 01:19:25,120
disinforming

2109
01:19:29,590 --> 01:19:26,560
it seems strange that you'd go through

2110
01:19:32,470 --> 01:19:29,600
all that work to throw off 100 people

2111
01:19:33,590 --> 01:19:32,480
yeah exactly right um and that story

2112
01:19:37,189 --> 01:19:33,600
broke and it broke

2113
01:19:38,310 --> 01:19:37,199
big um but to uh scrub the videos from

2114
01:19:41,430 --> 01:19:38,320
the internet

2115
01:19:42,709 --> 01:19:41,440
and things started getting uh deleted i

2116
01:19:45,669 --> 01:19:42,719
thought that that was

2117
01:19:47,590 --> 01:19:45,679
very strange if it's just a hoax and i

2118
01:19:48,310 --> 01:19:47,600
was never able to put all of the pieces

2119
01:19:50,310 --> 01:19:48,320
together

2120
01:19:52,149 --> 01:19:50,320
well let's talk about ttsa for a second

2121
01:19:53,830 --> 01:19:52,159
you mentioned uh before the break and

2122
01:19:55,030 --> 01:19:53,840
we'll spend some time on this uh for

2123
01:19:58,229 --> 01:19:55,040
sure

2124
01:20:01,910 --> 01:19:58,239
uh you um you said that

2125
01:20:02,630 --> 01:20:01,920
your take on ttsa may not be that

2126
01:20:05,830 --> 01:20:02,640
popular

2127
01:20:07,990 --> 01:20:05,840
okay so let's let's actually start here

2128
01:20:09,830 --> 01:20:08,000
uh we have lou elizondo we have chris

2129
01:20:13,430 --> 01:20:09,840
mellon we have steve justice

2130
01:20:15,030 --> 01:20:13,440
that now have all left ttsa

2131
01:20:16,870 --> 01:20:15,040
let's let's start there what went

2132
01:20:18,070 --> 01:20:16,880
through your mind when when the news

2133
01:20:19,750 --> 01:20:18,080
broke

2134
01:20:22,629 --> 01:20:19,760
had they signed the money for the for

2135
01:20:23,990 --> 01:20:22,639
the task force immediately i had a panel

2136
01:20:25,590 --> 01:20:24,000
i put on a panel

2137
01:20:27,830 --> 01:20:25,600
i brought on a bunch of people i brought

2138
01:20:29,669 --> 01:20:27,840
on the guy who did the ttsa app

2139
01:20:31,189 --> 01:20:29,679
and i basically said okay did they sign

2140
01:20:32,550 --> 01:20:31,199
the thing because to me

2141
01:20:34,550 --> 01:20:32,560
uh they're just shuffling the deck

2142
01:20:35,430 --> 01:20:34,560
there's we always sort of look at it

2143
01:20:37,669 --> 01:20:35,440
from the surface

2144
01:20:39,830 --> 01:20:37,679
we don't realize all this stuff is

2145
01:20:42,229 --> 01:20:39,840
probably planned even the thing with

2146
01:20:43,430 --> 01:20:42,239
how tts started like and it was done on

2147
01:20:45,830 --> 01:20:43,440
your show you got the

2148
01:20:47,430 --> 01:20:45,840
the scoop on this whole thing where tom

2149
01:20:47,910 --> 01:20:47,440
talks about how it started everybody

2150
01:20:50,229 --> 01:20:47,920
thinks

2151
01:20:52,229 --> 01:20:50,239
oh tom delong started ttsa and he

2152
01:20:54,629 --> 01:20:52,239
gathered all these people together

2153
01:20:56,310 --> 01:20:54,639
and they uh you know he's this smart guy

2154
01:20:56,870 --> 01:20:56,320
and he's the messiah and i'm going like

2155
01:20:58,390 --> 01:20:56,880
come on

2156
01:21:00,709 --> 01:20:58,400
when he was on your show he talked about

2157
01:21:01,510 --> 01:21:00,719
it he went to to he gets contacted by

2158
01:21:03,830 --> 01:21:01,520
that guy

2159
01:21:04,950 --> 01:21:03,840
to go to the the um they know he's

2160
01:21:06,629 --> 01:21:04,960
interested in ufos

2161
01:21:08,310 --> 01:21:06,639
oh do you want to come to uh lockheed

2162
01:21:08,950 --> 01:21:08,320
skunk works the little barbecue we're

2163
01:21:10,390 --> 01:21:08,960
having here

2164
01:21:12,310 --> 01:21:10,400
and you can introduce the president i

2165
01:21:14,070 --> 01:21:12,320
mean can you talk about a hook being

2166
01:21:15,430 --> 01:21:14,080
dangled in front of tom delong and of

2167
01:21:17,030 --> 01:21:15,440
course he goes well i'll go if i can

2168
01:21:17,830 --> 01:21:17,040
talk to the guy for five minutes and he

2169
01:21:20,070 --> 01:21:17,840
goes on to a

2170
01:21:20,950 --> 01:21:20,080
lockheed skiff you do not if you're a

2171
01:21:22,950 --> 01:21:20,960
rock star and

2172
01:21:25,110 --> 01:21:22,960
you do not get into a lockheed skiff

2173
01:21:26,870 --> 01:21:25,120
where there's top secret stuff and

2174
01:21:29,030 --> 01:21:26,880
and they go there and then he's doing

2175
01:21:31,430 --> 01:21:29,040
his pitch and then the guy says to him

2176
01:21:32,149 --> 01:21:31,440
oh this might actually work and so what

2177
01:21:34,629 --> 01:21:32,159
happens

2178
01:21:36,709 --> 01:21:34,639
he's the lucky skiff they say oh we want

2179
01:21:39,030 --> 01:21:36,719
you to meet these two guys in washington

2180
01:21:40,470 --> 01:21:39,040
they send them to washington and these

2181
01:21:41,270 --> 01:21:40,480
two guys are in this in this room and

2182
01:21:42,550 --> 01:21:41,280
they say oh

2183
01:21:43,510 --> 01:21:42,560
you know this doesn't happen in the

2184
01:21:44,870 --> 01:21:43,520
white house it doesn't happen in

2185
01:21:46,149 --> 01:21:44,880
congress happens when guys like us

2186
01:21:46,709 --> 01:21:46,159
decide to move the football down the

2187
01:21:48,629 --> 01:21:46,719
field

2188
01:21:50,709 --> 01:21:48,639
and then they talk to him and then then

2189
01:21:51,830 --> 01:21:50,719
he goes to nassau and he talks to nassau

2190
01:21:53,990 --> 01:21:51,840
they send them to ames

2191
01:21:55,350 --> 01:21:54,000
ames sends them to the general and then

2192
01:21:56,790 --> 01:21:55,360
they send him with the other general

2193
01:21:58,390 --> 01:21:56,800
and they just move him around and it's

2194
01:22:00,390 --> 01:21:58,400
like it's the same story as

2195
01:22:01,590 --> 01:22:00,400
as bill moore we're from the government

2196
01:22:02,149 --> 01:22:01,600
here and we'd like to help you and

2197
01:22:04,149 --> 01:22:02,159
you're going to

2198
01:22:05,750 --> 01:22:04,159
help you will help you and you help us

2199
01:22:06,709 --> 01:22:05,760
so they set this whole thing up for them

2200
01:22:09,189 --> 01:22:06,719
all the witnesses

2201
01:22:10,070 --> 01:22:09,199
all these guys that were put in into tom

2202
01:22:12,470 --> 01:22:10,080
delong's hands

2203
01:22:14,310 --> 01:22:12,480
he didn't find these guys and so you you

2204
01:22:17,669 --> 01:22:14,320
look at it as if this is like a

2205
01:22:20,870 --> 01:22:17,679
a government operation so when they left

2206
01:22:24,070 --> 01:22:20,880
because other guys left like bill um

2207
01:22:25,189 --> 01:22:24,080
kit green was sort of related to them uh

2208
01:22:27,910 --> 01:22:25,199
he was actually the guy that brought

2209
01:22:28,470 --> 01:22:27,920
help put off into ttsa and then he left

2210
01:22:30,470 --> 01:22:28,480
and he

2211
01:22:32,149 --> 01:22:30,480
and and nolan seemed to get money from

2212
01:22:34,470 --> 01:22:32,159
the defense department work on this

2213
01:22:35,910 --> 01:22:34,480
this study on experiencers on their dna

2214
01:22:36,470 --> 01:22:35,920
and on the brain patterns and stuff like

2215
01:22:38,709 --> 01:22:36,480
that

2216
01:22:40,550 --> 01:22:38,719
and they they pulled out but as soon as

2217
01:22:41,990 --> 01:22:40,560
i saw that these three guys had left and

2218
01:22:43,350 --> 01:22:42,000
and the people i had on that some of

2219
01:22:45,030 --> 01:22:43,360
them said i knew this about six months

2220
01:22:46,229 --> 01:22:45,040
ago and i said okay so why do you say

2221
01:22:46,709 --> 01:22:46,239
they left well this is what we really

2222
01:22:48,550 --> 01:22:46,719
don't know

2223
01:22:51,350 --> 01:22:48,560
and i said well did they sign the money

2224
01:22:53,270 --> 01:22:51,360
because what ttsa did they went to ttsa

2225
01:22:54,629 --> 01:22:53,280
and tom delong says at one point

2226
01:22:56,390 --> 01:22:54,639
everybody says oh lou alexander was

2227
01:22:57,430 --> 01:22:56,400
frustrated he retired

2228
01:22:58,310 --> 01:22:57,440
and then they were going to give me the

2229
01:23:00,070 --> 01:22:58,320
document i said well let's see a

2230
01:23:02,390 --> 01:23:00,080
document i don't believe this happened

2231
01:23:03,669 --> 01:23:02,400
they sent me the the louis lozando

2232
01:23:05,750 --> 01:23:03,679
resignation document

2233
01:23:07,189 --> 01:23:05,760
and it's got two misspellings in it it

2234
01:23:08,629 --> 01:23:07,199
doesn't have a date on it so how do you

2235
01:23:09,669 --> 01:23:08,639
resign if you haven't got a date on your

2236
01:23:10,950 --> 01:23:09,679
resignation letter

2237
01:23:12,790 --> 01:23:10,960
and it was it was dressed to the

2238
01:23:14,310 --> 01:23:12,800
secretary of defense you don't resign to

2239
01:23:15,189 --> 01:23:14,320
the secretary of defense you resigned to

2240
01:23:18,229 --> 01:23:15,199
your boss

2241
01:23:19,270 --> 01:23:18,239
and so i i saw this and tom delong says

2242
01:23:20,550 --> 01:23:19,280
at one point he said

2243
01:23:22,950 --> 01:23:20,560
and i've got on tape i still have to

2244
01:23:24,550 --> 01:23:22,960
find he said i hired him away

2245
01:23:26,629 --> 01:23:24,560
and so you have this whole situation

2246
01:23:27,669 --> 01:23:26,639
where he's the story is oh he's he's

2247
01:23:30,709 --> 01:23:27,679
frustrated

2248
01:23:32,149 --> 01:23:30,719
he's uh he's he's quit the job and then

2249
01:23:33,750 --> 01:23:32,159
they walk out with the videos and i said

2250
01:23:34,070 --> 01:23:33,760
okay so how do we get the videos out

2251
01:23:35,750 --> 01:23:34,080
when

2252
01:23:37,110 --> 01:23:35,760
you retire in disgust from the

2253
01:23:38,310 --> 01:23:37,120
department of defense they don't give

2254
01:23:40,629 --> 01:23:38,320
you a pile of

2255
01:23:41,830 --> 01:23:40,639
videos as a good by president as you're

2256
01:23:43,270 --> 01:23:41,840
leaving they

2257
01:23:44,149 --> 01:23:43,280
just say don't let the door hit you on

2258
01:23:45,510 --> 01:23:44,159
the way out they're not going to give

2259
01:23:46,870 --> 01:23:45,520
you a bunch of stuff so how do they get

2260
01:23:48,950 --> 01:23:46,880
the videos out and

2261
01:23:50,550 --> 01:23:48,960
all the time it was the same thing it's

2262
01:23:51,990 --> 01:23:50,560
framed it's framed they're leaking the

2263
01:23:53,830 --> 01:23:52,000
stuff they're using these people

2264
01:23:55,590 --> 01:23:53,840
so when these three guys left i go

2265
01:23:57,350 --> 01:23:55,600
they're going back and and

2266
01:23:59,350 --> 01:23:57,360
you saw that george knapp you heard the

2267
01:24:02,629 --> 01:23:59,360
interview george knapp says to them

2268
01:24:03,030 --> 01:24:02,639
he said lou so if you had a chance to go

2269
01:24:09,830 --> 01:24:03,040
back

2270
01:24:11,189 --> 01:24:09,840
can tell this is this is a setup

2271
01:24:14,310 --> 01:24:11,199
question that he's he's going

2272
01:24:15,430 --> 01:24:14,320
and he says he says we we need well he

2273
01:24:15,990 --> 01:24:15,440
asked him why are you leaving he says

2274
01:24:19,030 --> 01:24:16,000
well

2275
01:24:20,550 --> 01:24:19,040
we've got it we've done that i'm not a a

2276
01:24:22,149 --> 01:24:20,560
guy who goes into hollywood that kind of

2277
01:24:24,149 --> 01:24:22,159
stuff that's not my job

2278
01:24:25,830 --> 01:24:24,159
uh we did it we we have to get into

2279
01:24:27,350 --> 01:24:25,840
second gear and tonight he posts

2280
01:24:29,510 --> 01:24:27,360
on twitter this is what he said on on

2281
01:24:31,750 --> 01:24:29,520
twitter congratulations to all

2282
01:24:33,110 --> 01:24:31,760
so he's again he's disgusted he's left

2283
01:24:34,310 --> 01:24:33,120
the thing but he's all happy

2284
01:24:36,149 --> 01:24:34,320
congratulations to all

2285
01:24:37,590 --> 01:24:36,159
it appears that the senate bill funding

2286
01:24:40,950 --> 01:24:37,600
the task force

2287
01:24:43,110 --> 01:24:40,960
uh was passed job well done by all

2288
01:24:44,470 --> 01:24:43,120
special thanks to d johnson for keeping

2289
01:24:47,270 --> 01:24:44,480
us appraised

2290
01:24:48,709 --> 01:24:47,280
great start for now being in second gear

2291
01:24:49,910 --> 01:24:48,719
that's exactly what he said on the

2292
01:24:52,229 --> 01:24:49,920
interview with george knapp

2293
01:24:53,270 --> 01:24:52,239
we need to move to second gear so what

2294
01:24:55,830 --> 01:24:53,280
is the second gear

2295
01:24:57,590 --> 01:24:55,840
and i always said and that what this

2296
01:24:59,110 --> 01:24:57,600
whole thing with the senate was

2297
01:25:00,709 --> 01:24:59,120
it was about moving this thing into the

2298
01:25:01,910 --> 01:25:00,719
white world and getting some money

2299
01:25:03,990 --> 01:25:01,920
and everybody's going to walk away with

2300
01:25:05,510 --> 01:25:04,000
suitcases full of money uh you can't

2301
01:25:08,629 --> 01:25:05,520
there's no money for research

2302
01:25:09,990 --> 01:25:08,639
and ttsa was the front that went in to

2303
01:25:13,189 --> 01:25:10,000
do all this job

2304
01:25:14,229 --> 01:25:13,199
to move the senate to uh put the fear of

2305
01:25:16,629 --> 01:25:14,239
god into them

2306
01:25:17,669 --> 01:25:16,639
to say this is a threat that we need we

2307
01:25:19,830 --> 01:25:17,679
need this money

2308
01:25:21,590 --> 01:25:19,840
and as soon as they they did the task

2309
01:25:22,229 --> 01:25:21,600
force thing and the money started to

2310
01:25:24,229 --> 01:25:22,239
clear

2311
01:25:25,510 --> 01:25:24,239
it's then immediately their job was done

2312
01:25:27,510 --> 01:25:25,520
at ttsa

2313
01:25:29,270 --> 01:25:27,520
and i believe they're moving back and

2314
01:25:32,470 --> 01:25:29,280
they're moving back into the government

2315
01:25:35,030 --> 01:25:32,480
so uh elizondo is

2316
01:25:37,110 --> 01:25:35,040
uh i i did my little crystal ball about

2317
01:25:40,470 --> 01:25:37,120
this last week and i said that

2318
01:25:43,590 --> 01:25:40,480
elizondo would go to the uap task force

2319
01:25:45,510 --> 01:25:43,600
chris mellon's going to go um into the

2320
01:25:47,189 --> 01:25:45,520
biden administration there's been no

2321
01:25:50,390 --> 01:25:47,199
announcement about that

2322
01:25:54,310 --> 01:25:50,400
um so you're you're saying that lou

2323
01:25:56,790 --> 01:25:54,320
is probably or has he uh

2324
01:25:58,149 --> 01:25:56,800
officially been moved over to the uh

2325
01:25:59,910 --> 01:25:58,159
task force

2326
01:26:01,590 --> 01:25:59,920
but as with everything you're never

2327
01:26:04,470 --> 01:26:01,600
gonna know what the real job is

2328
01:26:04,870 --> 01:26:04,480
they're they're going to be going back

2329
01:26:06,629 --> 01:26:04,880
and

2330
01:26:08,790 --> 01:26:06,639
they're they're they're they're being

2331
01:26:11,669 --> 01:26:08,800
brought back but again

2332
01:26:12,870 --> 01:26:11,679
um this is all sort of under the weather

2333
01:26:15,750 --> 01:26:12,880
you never know

2334
01:26:17,750 --> 01:26:15,760
like did lou really resign um you know

2335
01:26:19,270 --> 01:26:17,760
what was he doing at ttsa

2336
01:26:22,390 --> 01:26:19,280
uh so i don't think you're really gonna

2337
01:26:24,470 --> 01:26:22,400
know if it by if biden appoints um

2338
01:26:25,669 --> 01:26:24,480
melon as in some position you know that

2339
01:26:26,790 --> 01:26:25,679
but a lot of it it's going to be

2340
01:26:28,229 --> 01:26:26,800
classified

2341
01:26:29,669 --> 01:26:28,239
that this is what they wanted they

2342
01:26:31,030 --> 01:26:29,679
wanted this thing moved out so i'm not

2343
01:26:32,390 --> 01:26:31,040
sure what kind of position

2344
01:26:34,070 --> 01:26:32,400
it's going to be an advisor and and

2345
01:26:34,870 --> 01:26:34,080
still ttsa is going to be linked into

2346
01:26:36,390 --> 01:26:34,880
this kind of stuff

2347
01:26:37,910 --> 01:26:36,400
because one of the things i brought up

2348
01:26:40,070 --> 01:26:37,920
in in the um

2349
01:26:41,510 --> 01:26:40,080
the uh the whole thing of them leaving

2350
01:26:43,110 --> 01:26:41,520
was they're leaving everything behind

2351
01:26:44,390 --> 01:26:43,120
it's the same thing as the videos they

2352
01:26:46,390 --> 01:26:44,400
when you walk out they walked out with

2353
01:26:48,310 --> 01:26:46,400
these videos but when you see what

2354
01:26:49,990 --> 01:26:48,320
happened in ttsa

2355
01:26:51,510 --> 01:26:50,000
i had the guy who built the app for them

2356
01:26:53,110 --> 01:26:51,520
this this app where they've got the

2357
01:26:54,550 --> 01:26:53,120
artificial intelligence and you put you

2358
01:26:56,310 --> 01:26:54,560
the thing on your cell phone

2359
01:26:57,669 --> 01:26:56,320
and all that and it logs all these ufo

2360
01:26:59,110 --> 01:26:57,679
sightings and stuff like the guy that

2361
01:27:00,310 --> 01:26:59,120
built it i said to him i said it was rob

2362
01:27:02,149 --> 01:27:00,320
freeman i said rob

2363
01:27:03,430 --> 01:27:02,159
so when you signed the deal did you sign

2364
01:27:05,270 --> 01:27:03,440
the deal with louis alexander did you

2365
01:27:06,790 --> 01:27:05,280
sign the deal with ttsa and he said no i

2366
01:27:08,870 --> 01:27:06,800
signed the deal with ttsa

2367
01:27:10,229 --> 01:27:08,880
so that app all that stuff they're

2368
01:27:10,550 --> 01:27:10,239
leaving behind they're they're walking

2369
01:27:12,790 --> 01:27:10,560
out

2370
01:27:13,910 --> 01:27:12,800
and all the metal material all the the

2371
01:27:15,270 --> 01:27:13,920
analysis

2372
01:27:17,590 --> 01:27:15,280
all the material they're walking away

2373
01:27:19,350 --> 01:27:17,600
but nothing and they wouldn't be walking

2374
01:27:20,629 --> 01:27:19,360
away unless there was i think some sort

2375
01:27:23,590 --> 01:27:20,639
of agreement

2376
01:27:25,189 --> 01:27:23,600
with an exchange with ttsa with the

2377
01:27:27,990 --> 01:27:25,199
because they had that deal with the army

2378
01:27:29,590 --> 01:27:28,000
so there's these inter the the army will

2379
01:27:31,990 --> 01:27:29,600
help them the government will help them

2380
01:27:33,189 --> 01:27:32,000
ttsa will have this app and stuff like

2381
01:27:33,750 --> 01:27:33,199
that because they walked away with

2382
01:27:35,830 --> 01:27:33,760
nothing

2383
01:27:37,270 --> 01:27:35,840
and so it doesn't make sense that they

2384
01:27:39,270 --> 01:27:37,280
would leave all that material

2385
01:27:41,590 --> 01:27:39,280
work and build this app and and get all

2386
01:27:43,350 --> 01:27:41,600
this uh material and analysis and

2387
01:27:44,790 --> 01:27:43,360
bring in eric davis and all this kind of

2388
01:27:46,229 --> 01:27:44,800
stuff and then just walk away from it

2389
01:27:46,950 --> 01:27:46,239
there has to be some sort of thing that

2390
01:27:48,790 --> 01:27:46,960
there's still

2391
01:27:51,189 --> 01:27:48,800
some sort of link so it's not what i'm

2392
01:27:52,629 --> 01:27:51,199
saying is it's not what it looks like

2393
01:27:54,550 --> 01:27:52,639
because tom delong was posting today

2394
01:27:56,790 --> 01:27:54,560
he's all happy um uh

2395
01:27:58,550 --> 01:27:56,800
melon went on a show today he's all

2396
01:28:00,629 --> 01:27:58,560
giving people updates it's like this is

2397
01:28:02,390 --> 01:28:00,639
just the next step is like it's it's

2398
01:28:03,910 --> 01:28:02,400
been planned for months as soon as

2399
01:28:05,750 --> 01:28:03,920
that money comes through as soon as the

2400
01:28:06,550 --> 01:28:05,760
task force our job is done and we're

2401
01:28:08,870 --> 01:28:06,560
going back

2402
01:28:10,470 --> 01:28:08,880
are you suggesting and that's very

2403
01:28:12,790 --> 01:28:10,480
interesting that

2404
01:28:15,669 --> 01:28:12,800
it's possible that elizondo never

2405
01:28:17,189 --> 01:28:15,679
officially resigned

2406
01:28:18,470 --> 01:28:17,199
well he always said he had no security

2407
01:28:19,830 --> 01:28:18,480
clearance i'm just saying that i'm

2408
01:28:21,990 --> 01:28:19,840
talking about from the dod

2409
01:28:25,350 --> 01:28:22,000
that he never resigned from the dod

2410
01:28:26,870 --> 01:28:25,360
while he was working with ttsa

2411
01:28:28,790 --> 01:28:26,880
well that was the thing that they never

2412
01:28:30,790 --> 01:28:28,800
produced a letter that actually

2413
01:28:32,629 --> 01:28:30,800
to me showed that that he had actually

2414
01:28:34,149 --> 01:28:32,639
resigned or if you see the thing if you

2415
01:28:36,790 --> 01:28:34,159
look at the the

2416
01:28:37,590 --> 01:28:36,800
the whole story with um the new york

2417
01:28:40,709 --> 01:28:37,600
times

2418
01:28:41,350 --> 01:28:40,719
if you see leslie kane's write-up about

2419
01:28:43,270 --> 01:28:41,360
it

2420
01:28:44,950 --> 01:28:43,280
she was told to go to washington that's

2421
01:28:46,470 --> 01:28:44,960
when they met louis lozano and she said

2422
01:28:46,950 --> 01:28:46,480
there was a bunch of intelligence people

2423
01:28:49,510 --> 01:28:46,960
in the room

2424
01:28:50,629 --> 01:28:49,520
not just lou alizando and that was the

2425
01:28:52,229 --> 01:28:50,639
day he resigned

2426
01:28:53,990 --> 01:28:52,239
which would indicate the meeting had to

2427
01:28:56,550 --> 01:28:54,000
be set up before he resigned

2428
01:28:57,830 --> 01:28:56,560
so this was all in the works and then

2429
01:28:58,310 --> 01:28:57,840
you get all these other things these

2430
01:29:01,510 --> 01:28:58,320
other

2431
01:29:02,790 --> 01:29:01,520
back channel things like um jim semivan

2432
01:29:04,390 --> 01:29:02,800
and i've told the j i know if you know

2433
01:29:05,750 --> 01:29:04,400
the story about jim simon jimmy semivan

2434
01:29:07,270 --> 01:29:05,760
is an experiencer he had the experience

2435
01:29:09,270 --> 01:29:07,280
in the 1990s

2436
01:29:11,510 --> 01:29:09,280
and i have a very good source that i

2437
01:29:13,590 --> 01:29:11,520
trust that told me that when he had that

2438
01:29:14,950 --> 01:29:13,600
experience he went to ron pandolfi who's

2439
01:29:16,229 --> 01:29:14,960
rumored to be the guy that runs the

2440
01:29:17,990 --> 01:29:16,239
weird desk at the cia

2441
01:29:19,270 --> 01:29:18,000
and he said ron me and my wife had this

2442
01:29:20,070 --> 01:29:19,280
experience these beings were in the room

2443
01:29:21,430 --> 01:29:20,080
last night

2444
01:29:23,350 --> 01:29:21,440
and i need to know what's going on and

2445
01:29:24,870 --> 01:29:23,360
ron says you don't need to know

2446
01:29:26,709 --> 01:29:24,880
he said i don't need to know because he

2447
01:29:28,149 --> 01:29:26,719
was head of covert ops

2448
01:29:29,510 --> 01:29:28,159
and he said i don't need to know i'll

2449
01:29:30,470 --> 01:29:29,520
tell you what you bring your boss's boss

2450
01:29:31,270 --> 01:29:30,480
in here we'll see who doesn't have a

2451
01:29:32,950 --> 01:29:31,280
need to know

2452
01:29:35,030 --> 01:29:32,960
and they brought they brought in i heard

2453
01:29:35,750 --> 01:29:35,040
that the director of cia came in and

2454
01:29:37,669 --> 01:29:35,760
said jim

2455
01:29:39,030 --> 01:29:37,679
leave it alone don't touch it pretend

2456
01:29:40,629 --> 01:29:39,040
it's a one-off

2457
01:29:42,550 --> 01:29:40,639
this will ruin your career don't don't

2458
01:29:44,709 --> 01:29:42,560
go down this road and

2459
01:29:45,669 --> 01:29:44,719
what i was told is that when jim semivan

2460
01:29:48,470 --> 01:29:45,679
left

2461
01:29:49,110 --> 01:29:48,480
uh ron pandolfi uh briefed him as to

2462
01:29:50,470 --> 01:29:49,120
what's going on

2463
01:29:51,590 --> 01:29:50,480
and that's what kid green says that you

2464
01:29:52,709 --> 01:29:51,600
don't have the security clearance very

2465
01:29:54,310 --> 01:29:52,719
high when you're in the government but

2466
01:29:55,830 --> 01:29:54,320
as soon as you leave and go into a

2467
01:29:57,910 --> 01:29:55,840
to a private contractor that's when you

2468
01:29:59,270 --> 01:29:57,920
get this the briefing and the security

2469
01:30:01,270 --> 01:29:59,280
clearance and all that kind of stuff

2470
01:30:02,870 --> 01:30:01,280
so you see that and then just recently

2471
01:30:03,990 --> 01:30:02,880
that that tape i was talking that that

2472
01:30:06,229 --> 01:30:04,000
kit green tape

2473
01:30:07,669 --> 01:30:06,239
the guy who leaked the tape i just in

2474
01:30:10,149 --> 01:30:07,679
the last couple days

2475
01:30:11,590 --> 01:30:10,159
had sent a an email to ron and he's

2476
01:30:12,950 --> 01:30:11,600
always bugging ron they played this game

2477
01:30:15,590 --> 01:30:12,960
like they're fighting or whatever

2478
01:30:17,430 --> 01:30:15,600
and he said you should go back and and

2479
01:30:18,149 --> 01:30:17,440
and talk to the senate intelligence

2480
01:30:20,790 --> 01:30:18,159
committee again

2481
01:30:21,430 --> 01:30:20,800
and as soon as i said that i said oh my

2482
01:30:23,110 --> 01:30:21,440
goodness

2483
01:30:24,149 --> 01:30:23,120
if ron was called in because that's what

2484
01:30:25,110 --> 01:30:24,159
happened if you remember back in the

2485
01:30:27,030 --> 01:30:25,120
clinton days

2486
01:30:28,470 --> 01:30:27,040
when uh clinton was going to be

2487
01:30:30,470 --> 01:30:28,480
approached with the ufo thing with

2488
01:30:31,990 --> 01:30:30,480
lawrence rockefeller they cut him off at

2489
01:30:34,709 --> 01:30:32,000
the past and they went to the

2490
01:30:36,229 --> 01:30:34,719
um the science advisor and the science

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advisor knows nothing about ufos so he

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says i need a briefing so they go to the

2493
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ci for a briefing and ron pandolf is

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01:30:41,669 --> 01:30:40,239
supposed to do a briefing

2495
01:30:43,510 --> 01:30:41,679
for the science advisor to the president

2496
01:30:46,470 --> 01:30:43,520
and he can't do it so he brings in

2497
01:30:48,470 --> 01:30:46,480
um a ufo researcher to do the briefing

2498
01:30:51,030 --> 01:30:48,480
because he can't you can't say the ufos

2499
01:30:52,629 --> 01:30:51,040
are cia type stuff and so then you see

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01:30:53,030 --> 01:30:52,639
this whole thing and you and i've always

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01:30:55,350 --> 01:30:53,040
said

2502
01:30:56,790 --> 01:30:55,360
is ron running this whole thing because

2503
01:30:59,110 --> 01:30:56,800
he keeps saying it's a tts

2504
01:30:59,990 --> 01:30:59,120
it's a scam it's a techno scam and that

2505
01:31:02,390 --> 01:31:00,000
basically

2506
01:31:03,750 --> 01:31:02,400
is is i think partly true he's always

2507
01:31:05,669 --> 01:31:03,760
had the same sort of

2508
01:31:07,669 --> 01:31:05,679
uh statement but i heard that he may

2509
01:31:08,870 --> 01:31:07,679
have briefed the senate intelligence

2510
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committee then it's like

2511
01:31:11,910 --> 01:31:10,159
well maybe they're all working together

2512
01:31:13,430 --> 01:31:11,920
they pretend they're fighting

2513
01:31:15,590 --> 01:31:13,440
and this kind of stuff but if ron was

2514
01:31:16,790 --> 01:31:15,600
brought in and briefed then he's part of

2515
01:31:18,550 --> 01:31:16,800
this whole thing this

2516
01:31:20,070 --> 01:31:18,560
task force thing and he's playing like

2517
01:31:22,550 --> 01:31:20,080
he's a skeptic and stuff like that

2518
01:31:24,709 --> 01:31:22,560
and he even when when i remember the day

2519
01:31:25,430 --> 01:31:24,719
when ttsa had the the opening thing in

2520
01:31:28,390 --> 01:31:25,440
october

2521
01:31:30,310 --> 01:31:28,400
of 2017. i was with dan smith who was

2522
01:31:32,070 --> 01:31:30,320
ron pandolf's friend i said

2523
01:31:33,830 --> 01:31:32,080
hey con watch this they're going to do

2524
01:31:35,669 --> 01:31:33,840
this news conference he went on and i

2525
01:31:37,590 --> 01:31:35,679
said ask ron ask around what's going on

2526
01:31:38,950 --> 01:31:37,600
and the first thing that he said ron

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says oh yeah

2528
01:31:43,350 --> 01:31:41,440
he said that's that's a big techno scam

2529
01:31:45,510 --> 01:31:43,360
i know all those guys

2530
01:31:47,110 --> 01:31:45,520
melons been in this since the 1980s and

2531
01:31:48,629 --> 01:31:47,120
he said i knew all those guys

2532
01:31:50,310 --> 01:31:48,639
and and they're they're trying to scam

2533
01:31:51,669 --> 01:31:50,320
and this the whole idea that they're

2534
01:31:52,390 --> 01:31:51,679
they're they're playing the game that

2535
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they're they're

2536
01:31:55,990 --> 01:31:53,520
they're trying they're trying to get

2537
01:31:57,669 --> 01:31:56,000
money out of congress and they they ran

2538
01:31:58,950 --> 01:31:57,679
through the billionaires and ron would

2539
01:31:59,270 --> 01:31:58,960
name these different billionaires that

2540
01:32:04,790 --> 01:31:59,280
they

2541
01:32:07,990 --> 01:32:04,800
from congress

2542
01:32:10,070 --> 01:32:08,000
and uh so if ron is part of this thing

2543
01:32:11,350 --> 01:32:10,080
if he's done the briefing and these

2544
01:32:12,470 --> 01:32:11,360
other guys are going back

2545
01:32:13,990 --> 01:32:12,480
this whole thing where you're saying oh

2546
01:32:14,950 --> 01:32:14,000
these guys are a bunch of scam artists

2547
01:32:17,590 --> 01:32:14,960
and whatever

2548
01:32:19,270 --> 01:32:17,600
they all may be working because semi-van

2549
01:32:20,390 --> 01:32:19,280
we asked semi-van the question like why

2550
01:32:22,950 --> 01:32:20,400
why would ron

2551
01:32:24,229 --> 01:32:22,960
uh you know distance you and say that

2552
01:32:25,910 --> 01:32:24,239
you didn't exist because i brought up i

2553
01:32:27,030 --> 01:32:25,920
was the guy that discovered jim semivan

2554
01:32:28,870 --> 01:32:27,040
and when i brought it up

2555
01:32:30,390 --> 01:32:28,880
ron pandolfie had said no the guy

2556
01:32:31,830 --> 01:32:30,400
doesn't exist there's no such guy

2557
01:32:33,669 --> 01:32:31,840
and then i started showing photographs

2558
01:32:34,709 --> 01:32:33,679
and they said oh yeah he does exist but

2559
01:32:35,990 --> 01:32:34,719
that's not his name and they were

2560
01:32:38,870 --> 01:32:36,000
playing these games i'm going

2561
01:32:40,149 --> 01:32:38,880
why would ron pandolfy deny that the

2562
01:32:41,750 --> 01:32:40,159
existence of jim semivan

2563
01:32:42,870 --> 01:32:41,760
because maybe jim semivan's working for

2564
01:32:43,590 --> 01:32:42,880
him and that's the whole thing that's

2565
01:32:45,430 --> 01:32:43,600
why i'm saying

2566
01:32:47,430 --> 01:32:45,440
what you're looking at at the surface

2567
01:32:48,149 --> 01:32:47,440
there's a lot of moving parts behind the

2568
01:32:49,910 --> 01:32:48,159
surface

2569
01:32:51,110 --> 01:32:49,920
and if you go back through ufo history

2570
01:32:52,709 --> 01:32:51,120
you'll see it over and over again

2571
01:32:54,870 --> 01:32:52,719
whether it was bill moore

2572
01:32:56,310 --> 01:32:54,880
or whether it was uh emmenaeger you see

2573
01:32:58,629 --> 01:32:56,320
this leak put it out

2574
01:32:59,590 --> 01:32:58,639
pull it back put it out uh cover the

2575
01:33:00,950 --> 01:32:59,600
cover the stuff

2576
01:33:03,430 --> 01:33:00,960
and that they've been leaking stuff

2577
01:33:04,950 --> 01:33:03,440
since the uh well even disney was

2578
01:33:06,310 --> 01:33:04,960
offered a documentary he did a

2579
01:33:06,950 --> 01:33:06,320
documentary and they pulled the videos

2580
01:33:09,510 --> 01:33:06,960
at the very

2581
01:33:11,030 --> 01:33:09,520
the videos and the photographs in 1956

2582
01:33:11,590 --> 01:33:11,040
they've been doing this over and over

2583
01:33:15,030 --> 01:33:11,600
again

2584
01:33:16,629 --> 01:33:15,040
and it's to control the story and um

2585
01:33:18,390 --> 01:33:16,639
this last bit is about the money it's

2586
01:33:21,110 --> 01:33:18,400
getting money from congress

2587
01:33:21,990 --> 01:33:21,120
and ttsa didn't have any money so ttsa

2588
01:33:24,310 --> 01:33:22,000
is not going to build a flying

2589
01:33:25,590 --> 01:33:24,320
saucer but congress has got a 700

2590
01:33:26,790 --> 01:33:25,600
billion dollar budget they're not going

2591
01:33:28,950 --> 01:33:26,800
to miss 10 billion

2592
01:33:30,229 --> 01:33:28,960
or 15 billion dollars and that's where

2593
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you go after congress to get the money

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from congress

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let's take our break right here our

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guest tonight grant cameron

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jimmy church tonight grant cameron is

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grant cameron is with us we were just

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talking before the break uh grant

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about ttsa now that we have the

2725
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exodus of louisiana chris mellon and

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steve justice

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where does that leave ttsa moving

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forward

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yeah well they're i guess their job is

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done i mean yeah one of the things one

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of the panel

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people pointed out was that they they

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still have all the the rights to all the

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the movies and the books and all that

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kind of stuff tom was never a research

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guy he was always the

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hollywood guy to do that kind of stuff

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and there still may be some agreements

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uh where stuff's gonna flow in there but

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i i

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i can't really see that's the three main

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guys i call them the three magi

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that have walked out i mean that's their

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three key guys

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and green is left and nolan's no longer

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associated

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and um so what have they got they really

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don't have anything except the

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the hollywood thing which to do but i

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think

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um there's still going to be connections

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the other thing i i forgot to mention

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that you got to remember when you're

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looking at why did these guys leave

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now melon and um justice maybe

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have enough money i don't think lou

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alexander's got money so

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when they leave you always have to look

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at well who's going to who's going to

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pay them

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where are they going they got to be

2762
01:40:44,310 --> 01:40:42,320
getting a job somewhere and that's where

2763
01:40:45,430 --> 01:40:44,320
again it sort of supports the fact that

2764
01:40:47,270 --> 01:40:45,440
uh when

2765
01:40:48,790 --> 01:40:47,280
and the bill hadn't been signed at that

2766
01:40:50,149 --> 01:40:48,800
point that's when i said

2767
01:40:52,229 --> 01:40:50,159
to everybody and there was a kind of a

2768
01:40:53,669 --> 01:40:52,239
debate on the panel i said is this is

2769
01:40:55,109 --> 01:40:53,679
money flowing yet is this

2770
01:40:56,629 --> 01:40:55,119
what's going on here is this thing

2771
01:40:57,030 --> 01:40:56,639
because that was to me the immediate

2772
01:40:59,189 --> 01:40:57,040
thing

2773
01:41:01,270 --> 01:40:59,199
and now they're you know it's it's close

2774
01:41:02,709 --> 01:41:01,280
or signed or whatever

2775
01:41:05,350 --> 01:41:02,719
and and the other thing you've got

2776
01:41:06,629 --> 01:41:05,360
stephen greer is is this connection with

2777
01:41:07,750 --> 01:41:06,639
all these people in the background that

2778
01:41:08,870 --> 01:41:07,760
you always have to look at the people in

2779
01:41:12,629 --> 01:41:08,880
the background

2780
01:41:17,109 --> 01:41:14,870
stephen greer was dealing with ron

2781
01:41:19,350 --> 01:41:17,119
pandolfi so he may have

2782
01:41:20,229 --> 01:41:19,360
an insight on on what's going on there

2783
01:41:24,070 --> 01:41:20,239
he's

2784
01:41:26,149 --> 01:41:24,080
has uh with ron

2785
01:41:27,590 --> 01:41:26,159
same as ron sort of indirectly sends

2786
01:41:29,590 --> 01:41:27,600
through stuff through to me

2787
01:41:31,189 --> 01:41:29,600
and there's all these things in behind

2788
01:41:33,189 --> 01:41:31,199
the scenes they're just looking at the

2789
01:41:35,430 --> 01:41:33,199
surface you really can't see so it may

2790
01:41:37,590 --> 01:41:35,440
look like ttsa is out of business

2791
01:41:39,030 --> 01:41:37,600
but i'm sure this has all been planned

2792
01:41:41,430 --> 01:41:39,040
for many many months

2793
01:41:42,390 --> 01:41:41,440
and that the main objective of ttsa was

2794
01:41:45,669 --> 01:41:42,400
a front

2795
01:41:46,149 --> 01:41:45,679
to move this thing to senate to get the

2796
01:41:47,990 --> 01:41:46,159
money

2797
01:41:49,350 --> 01:41:48,000
and to get uh white world funding for

2798
01:41:52,070 --> 01:41:49,360
this thing uh

2799
01:41:52,950 --> 01:41:52,080
i'll have uh dr greer on the show

2800
01:41:56,149 --> 01:41:52,960
tomorrow

2801
01:41:59,109 --> 01:41:56,159
and i will ask him just that um

2802
01:41:59,990 --> 01:41:59,119
and there's the other part i mean does

2803
01:42:03,270 --> 01:42:00,000
ttsa

2804
01:42:03,910 --> 01:42:03,280
just you know remain as an entertainment

2805
01:42:06,550 --> 01:42:03,920
company

2806
01:42:07,430 --> 01:42:06,560
only and and no research i mean hal put

2807
01:42:11,030 --> 01:42:07,440
off

2808
01:42:14,070 --> 01:42:11,040
uh appears to still be there um

2809
01:42:16,470 --> 01:42:14,080
no word from hal yet about uh

2810
01:42:17,510 --> 01:42:16,480
where he's going to be with ttsa moving

2811
01:42:20,550 --> 01:42:17,520
forward

2812
01:42:23,590 --> 01:42:20,560
but if they just uh turn into an

2813
01:42:25,030 --> 01:42:23,600
entertainment company only then the

2814
01:42:26,950 --> 01:42:25,040
pentagon's not going to really have

2815
01:42:29,830 --> 01:42:26,960
anybody to leak to

2816
01:42:31,910 --> 01:42:29,840
right so is is that just it just an

2817
01:42:35,590 --> 01:42:31,920
entertainment company books

2818
01:42:37,430 --> 01:42:35,600
movies and tv well but but but after

2819
01:42:38,790 --> 01:42:37,440
tom did the interview with you where he

2820
01:42:40,310 --> 01:42:38,800
sort of messed up and then when he did

2821
01:42:41,590 --> 01:42:40,320
the rogan interview that he's never made

2822
01:42:43,990 --> 01:42:41,600
a statement since then

2823
01:42:44,870 --> 01:42:44,000
it's always been louis elizondo that's

2824
01:42:47,109 --> 01:42:44,880
doing the leaking

2825
01:42:48,470 --> 01:42:47,119
lu elizondo like even now did you handle

2826
01:42:50,229 --> 01:42:48,480
uh material

2827
01:42:52,070 --> 01:42:50,239
did you handle hardware well come on

2828
01:42:55,109 --> 01:42:52,080
george what are you what are you doing

2829
01:42:56,310 --> 01:42:55,119
oh yeah okay yeah i did yes and and he's

2830
01:42:58,149 --> 01:42:56,320
leaking all this

2831
01:42:59,830 --> 01:42:58,159
material he's been the spokesman for

2832
01:43:02,070 --> 01:42:59,840
tdsa for a number of years so

2833
01:43:03,990 --> 01:43:02,080
they're not tom has really not said much

2834
01:43:04,790 --> 01:43:04,000
but tom is posting today too he seems to

2835
01:43:06,149 --> 01:43:04,800
be in a good mood

2836
01:43:07,910 --> 01:43:06,159
he doesn't seem to be too disturbed by

2837
01:43:09,590 --> 01:43:07,920
anything that's going on and melon

2838
01:43:10,870 --> 01:43:09,600
doesn't need to be disturbed as if this

2839
01:43:13,590 --> 01:43:10,880
is all sort of been in the

2840
01:43:15,510 --> 01:43:13,600
in the cards and that's why i say to

2841
01:43:16,629 --> 01:43:15,520
people be very cautious i think it's way

2842
01:43:19,109 --> 01:43:16,639
more complex

2843
01:43:20,550 --> 01:43:19,119
than what what you think is going on in

2844
01:43:21,750 --> 01:43:20,560
terms of what are these guys actually

2845
01:43:22,629 --> 01:43:21,760
doing and who are they working for

2846
01:43:23,830 --> 01:43:22,639
because you're never going to figure it

2847
01:43:24,790 --> 01:43:23,840
out you're never going to know who pays

2848
01:43:27,030 --> 01:43:24,800
the bills

2849
01:43:28,950 --> 01:43:27,040
uh who's in behind the scene i've always

2850
01:43:30,550 --> 01:43:28,960
thought that ron pandolfie has a a key

2851
01:43:32,470 --> 01:43:30,560
figure in this whole thing

2852
01:43:34,070 --> 01:43:32,480
and and yet you can't really prove it so

2853
01:43:35,510 --> 01:43:34,080
you're just sort of guessing

2854
01:43:37,430 --> 01:43:35,520
uh but i'm i'm sure they know what

2855
01:43:37,990 --> 01:43:37,440
they're doing that there's step two like

2856
01:43:40,070 --> 01:43:38,000
even now he's

2857
01:43:41,030 --> 01:43:40,080
saying we've moved to second gear and

2858
01:43:41,510 --> 01:43:41,040
that's what he was saying in the

2859
01:43:43,510 --> 01:43:41,520
interview

2860
01:43:45,270 --> 01:43:43,520
we've gone past first gear now we're

2861
01:43:46,709 --> 01:43:45,280
moving we're in second gear and that all

2862
01:43:49,430 --> 01:43:46,719
has to do with the signing and the

2863
01:43:51,109 --> 01:43:49,440
getting this this uh task force report

2864
01:43:52,149 --> 01:43:51,119
that the navy is now working on this and

2865
01:43:53,910 --> 01:43:52,159
it's out in the open

2866
01:43:55,350 --> 01:43:53,920
and he can uh you know release the

2867
01:43:56,470 --> 01:43:55,360
material that they he'll be their

2868
01:43:57,830 --> 01:43:56,480
spokesman or

2869
01:44:00,229 --> 01:43:57,840
he'll still be talking i'll guarantee

2870
01:44:02,310 --> 01:44:00,239
you him and melon matt mellon is it's

2871
01:44:03,350 --> 01:44:02,320
he's always wanted this kind of stuff

2872
01:44:05,590 --> 01:44:03,360
justice is just

2873
01:44:07,109 --> 01:44:05,600
after the technology but the other two

2874
01:44:09,030 --> 01:44:07,119
are they're they're bought into this

2875
01:44:10,870 --> 01:44:09,040
issue and they they want it out

2876
01:44:12,709 --> 01:44:10,880
and uh they're not going to quit talking

2877
01:44:14,550 --> 01:44:12,719
they don't need the ttsa

2878
01:44:15,750 --> 01:44:14,560
label behind them any they haven't

2879
01:44:17,189 --> 01:44:15,760
really used it for a long time

2880
01:44:19,830 --> 01:44:17,199
tom has really not said anything for a

2881
01:44:21,350 --> 01:44:19,840
couple of years no but they are a public

2882
01:44:24,229 --> 01:44:21,360
benefit corporation

2883
01:44:25,910 --> 01:44:24,239
uh they sold stock what happens with the

2884
01:44:27,350 --> 01:44:25,920
investors

2885
01:44:29,590 --> 01:44:27,360
well yeah that's that's a problem

2886
01:44:31,830 --> 01:44:29,600
because uh we had um

2887
01:44:33,189 --> 01:44:31,840
a guy who was a financial guy that

2888
01:44:34,629 --> 01:44:33,199
talked about this is a number of months

2889
01:44:35,990 --> 01:44:34,639
ago already that they were in financial

2890
01:44:39,109 --> 01:44:36,000
trouble already

2891
01:44:40,950 --> 01:44:39,119
and so that's the the one of the

2892
01:44:42,070 --> 01:44:40,960
reasons i thought might be as well is

2893
01:44:43,109 --> 01:44:42,080
that they really didn't have the money

2894
01:44:46,390 --> 01:44:43,119
to pay

2895
01:44:47,750 --> 01:44:46,400
um louis lozando anymore that it wasn't

2896
01:44:48,870 --> 01:44:47,760
financially viable

2897
01:44:50,709 --> 01:44:48,880
because where are you going to go with

2898
01:44:51,590 --> 01:44:50,719
it you can't and but it didn't make any

2899
01:44:53,030 --> 01:44:51,600
sense at first because

2900
01:44:54,629 --> 01:44:53,040
you know that they wanted 50 million

2901
01:44:56,629 --> 01:44:54,639
dollars in the initial offering they

2902
01:44:57,910 --> 01:44:56,639
only got 2.2 million and then the rumor

2903
01:44:58,629 --> 01:44:57,920
i heard is they only got a million out

2904
01:45:00,070 --> 01:44:58,639
of that

2905
01:45:01,830 --> 01:45:00,080
so they really didn't have any money it

2906
01:45:03,830 --> 01:45:01,840
was sort of tom's money they're not

2907
01:45:06,229 --> 01:45:03,840
going to build a flying saucer so

2908
01:45:07,910 --> 01:45:06,239
um anybody that thinks that they're

2909
01:45:09,750 --> 01:45:07,920
suddenly going to have some technology

2910
01:45:10,950 --> 01:45:09,760
and build a flying saucer

2911
01:45:12,229 --> 01:45:10,960
they didn't have any money before now

2912
01:45:14,229 --> 01:45:12,239
they're really not going to be money and

2913
01:45:15,910 --> 01:45:14,239
no investor is going to go near them now

2914
01:45:17,350 --> 01:45:15,920
so i would say you know basically the

2915
01:45:18,550 --> 01:45:17,360
money is is gone i don't know what

2916
01:45:22,310 --> 01:45:18,560
they're gonna

2917
01:45:24,070 --> 01:45:22,320
do but um there's there's really nothing

2918
01:45:26,310 --> 01:45:24,080
left in terms of uh

2919
01:45:27,510 --> 01:45:26,320
you know uh the stuff that people

2920
01:45:29,510 --> 01:45:27,520
invested on

2921
01:45:30,950 --> 01:45:29,520
it's uh it's such a very interesting

2922
01:45:34,070 --> 01:45:30,960
situation because

2923
01:45:36,229 --> 01:45:34,080
okay sure we have lou uh chris

2924
01:45:38,070 --> 01:45:36,239
and and steve to talk about those three

2925
01:45:40,629 --> 01:45:38,080
guys but then you have

2926
01:45:41,430 --> 01:45:40,639
the rest of the world in the community

2927
01:45:44,629 --> 01:45:41,440
that

2928
01:45:48,310 --> 01:45:44,639
uh emotionally invested into

2929
01:45:49,350 --> 01:45:48,320
ttsa and to have the rug and carpet you

2930
01:45:52,470 --> 01:45:49,360
know pulled out

2931
01:45:55,189 --> 01:45:52,480
once again underneath the ufo community

2932
01:45:56,870 --> 01:45:55,199
with a big pile of disappointment here

2933
01:45:58,229 --> 01:45:56,880
and i think that should be something

2934
01:46:00,950 --> 01:45:58,239
that needs to be addressed

2935
01:46:03,030 --> 01:46:00,960
directly um you build up all of this

2936
01:46:07,510 --> 01:46:03,040
momentum and all of this hope

2937
01:46:09,910 --> 01:46:07,520
and big chunks of the community

2938
01:46:11,030 --> 01:46:09,920
are are there propping up ttsa and

2939
01:46:13,830 --> 01:46:11,040
supporting them in

2940
01:46:15,189 --> 01:46:13,840
in social media and and watching the

2941
01:46:16,950 --> 01:46:15,199
television shows

2942
01:46:18,709 --> 01:46:16,960
and and getting behind us buying the

2943
01:46:22,629 --> 01:46:18,719
books and all of a sudden

2944
01:46:24,790 --> 01:46:22,639
once again poof it it just disappears

2945
01:46:26,790 --> 01:46:24,800
yeah they lost the show i i heard they

2946
01:46:28,550 --> 01:46:26,800
were going to do a a statement but i

2947
01:46:30,629 --> 01:46:28,560
as far as i know there's been no

2948
01:46:32,709 --> 01:46:30,639
statement from ttsa yet

2949
01:46:34,629 --> 01:46:32,719
from the people that whoever's left

2950
01:46:37,669 --> 01:46:34,639
there and it would basically

2951
01:46:40,790 --> 01:46:37,679
just be you know a

2952
01:46:42,550 --> 01:46:40,800
semi-van put off and tom delong and a

2953
01:46:43,430 --> 01:46:42,560
couple of these cia people that they

2954
01:46:45,590 --> 01:46:43,440
have

2955
01:46:47,270 --> 01:46:45,600
uh other than that they really they

2956
01:46:49,350 --> 01:46:47,280
don't so i can see people are going to

2957
01:46:51,430 --> 01:46:49,360
be upset but then of course people

2958
01:46:52,870 --> 01:46:51,440
move on and say oh man now we got this

2959
01:46:53,669 --> 01:46:52,880
task force and that's the new big story

2960
01:46:55,109 --> 01:46:53,679
stories

2961
01:46:57,189 --> 01:46:55,119
is the task force going to save us

2962
01:46:58,310 --> 01:46:57,199
they're the messiah now and they're

2963
01:47:00,870 --> 01:46:58,320
all the stuff's going to come out

2964
01:47:01,910 --> 01:47:00,880
there's the the first report before 2015

2965
01:47:02,229 --> 01:47:01,920
and they're gonna have photographs and

2966
01:47:03,510 --> 01:47:02,239
there's

2967
01:47:05,350 --> 01:47:03,520
second part some of the stuff's starting

2968
01:47:08,470 --> 01:47:05,360
to leak out already and

2969
01:47:10,390 --> 01:47:08,480
um so people are sort of excited even

2970
01:47:11,910 --> 01:47:10,400
the uh some of the people i know that

2971
01:47:13,990 --> 01:47:11,920
were big supporters are

2972
01:47:14,950 --> 01:47:14,000
sort of moved on where oh this might be

2973
01:47:16,149 --> 01:47:14,960
a good thing

2974
01:47:17,590 --> 01:47:16,159
i don't know if people had that much

2975
01:47:19,350 --> 01:47:17,600
money invested you know a lot of people

2976
01:47:20,790 --> 01:47:19,360
invested the 700 bucks or a thousand

2977
01:47:23,990 --> 01:47:20,800
bucks or whatever

2978
01:47:25,510 --> 01:47:24,000
but um yeah they're gonna be um

2979
01:47:26,950 --> 01:47:25,520
they're gonna be disappointed if they're

2980
01:47:27,510 --> 01:47:26,960
thinking that ttsa is gonna build

2981
01:47:29,590 --> 01:47:27,520
anything

2982
01:47:31,109 --> 01:47:29,600
but that never made any sense beginning

2983
01:47:32,790 --> 01:47:31,119
if they'd gotten the 50 million dollars

2984
01:47:34,870 --> 01:47:32,800
that may have made sense but

2985
01:47:35,990 --> 01:47:34,880
it was like game over from from word go

2986
01:47:37,669 --> 01:47:36,000
when they didn't get the money that they

2987
01:47:41,109 --> 01:47:37,679
expected in the initial offering

2988
01:47:42,950 --> 01:47:41,119
were you surprised that after everything

2989
01:47:46,310 --> 01:47:42,960
in december 2017

2990
01:47:50,390 --> 01:47:46,320
and the new york times article um

2991
01:47:54,070 --> 01:47:50,400
with the nimitz and the roosevelt um

2992
01:47:55,750 --> 01:47:54,080
that was the only thing pretty much that

2993
01:47:58,390 --> 01:47:55,760
ttsa brought to the table

2994
01:48:00,470 --> 01:47:58,400
after that for three years it was the

2995
01:48:04,470 --> 01:48:00,480
same story that was being covered

2996
01:48:07,750 --> 01:48:04,480
nothing else fresh was presented by ttsa

2997
01:48:09,030 --> 01:48:07,760
unless i missed something well

2998
01:48:10,550 --> 01:48:09,040
that's the thing is to try to figure out

2999
01:48:11,669 --> 01:48:10,560
what were they actually doing were they

3000
01:48:12,629 --> 01:48:11,679
actually doing what everybody thought

3001
01:48:13,830 --> 01:48:12,639
they were doing

3002
01:48:15,830 --> 01:48:13,840
in terms of they're going to bring

3003
01:48:17,750 --> 01:48:15,840
disclosure and this kind of stuff

3004
01:48:18,950 --> 01:48:17,760
uh because the the whole thing with the

3005
01:48:20,310 --> 01:48:18,960
new york times and because

3006
01:48:21,830 --> 01:48:20,320
it i always point out to people it

3007
01:48:22,470 --> 01:48:21,840
wasn't the new york times it was the new

3008
01:48:24,629 --> 01:48:22,480
york times

3009
01:48:26,070 --> 01:48:24,639
washington post and political all went

3010
01:48:28,070 --> 01:48:26,080
the same day which meant

3011
01:48:29,430 --> 01:48:28,080
that story was fed to them by the the

3012
01:48:30,870 --> 01:48:29,440
pentagon it wasn't some

3013
01:48:32,629 --> 01:48:30,880
reporters in new york times that broke

3014
01:48:34,070 --> 01:48:32,639
this story there was others that were

3015
01:48:37,189 --> 01:48:34,080
getting the story as well

3016
01:48:39,030 --> 01:48:37,199
so it comes down to it

3017
01:48:41,189 --> 01:48:39,040
the the they were given the initial

3018
01:48:43,750 --> 01:48:41,199
story and then it may have been

3019
01:48:45,430 --> 01:48:43,760
an understanding that these guys were

3020
01:48:45,990 --> 01:48:45,440
going to go to congress and we need some

3021
01:48:47,830 --> 01:48:46,000
money

3022
01:48:49,750 --> 01:48:47,840
we didn't get it through ttsa and that's

3023
01:48:50,629 --> 01:48:49,760
our job now so you got to give them

3024
01:48:52,229 --> 01:48:50,639
credit that that

3025
01:48:54,149 --> 01:48:52,239
that it's a totally different world

3026
01:48:55,590 --> 01:48:54,159
after 2017

3027
01:48:57,030 --> 01:48:55,600
and i always maintain it was hillary

3028
01:48:57,830 --> 01:48:57,040
clinton and podesta that started the

3029
01:48:59,189 --> 01:48:57,840
whole thing

3030
01:49:01,669 --> 01:48:59,199
and because hillary lost the election

3031
01:49:03,669 --> 01:49:01,679
they had to re-tool the whole thing

3032
01:49:05,030 --> 01:49:03,679
and wait eight months or ten months to

3033
01:49:07,590 --> 01:49:05,040
run the news conference

3034
01:49:08,310 --> 01:49:07,600
but this was in the works back in 2016.

3035
01:49:10,310 --> 01:49:08,320
in fact

3036
01:49:12,229 --> 01:49:10,320
my book managing magic was written eight

3037
01:49:14,629 --> 01:49:12,239
months before tom delonge went public

3038
01:49:15,830 --> 01:49:14,639
and i basically say exactly what they're

3039
01:49:16,629 --> 01:49:15,840
going to do and i was getting this

3040
01:49:18,550 --> 01:49:16,639
material

3041
01:49:20,229 --> 01:49:18,560
from the inside and and that's what

3042
01:49:22,310 --> 01:49:20,239
happened so you get you got to give them

3043
01:49:24,310 --> 01:49:22,320
credit that they broke the story in 2017

3044
01:49:26,950 --> 01:49:24,320
it's completely different world of ufos

3045
01:49:28,950 --> 01:49:26,960
and they made this move that they moved

3046
01:49:31,510 --> 01:49:28,960
congress to get money

3047
01:49:32,709 --> 01:49:31,520
and to actually have a study where

3048
01:49:33,430 --> 01:49:32,719
they're hoping that there's going to be

3049
01:49:35,910 --> 01:49:33,440
some sort of

3050
01:49:36,870 --> 01:49:35,920
public acknowledgement and place for

3051
01:49:39,350 --> 01:49:36,880
people to

3052
01:49:40,310 --> 01:49:39,360
to file so i give them credit for the

3053
01:49:41,830 --> 01:49:40,320
the stuff they've done

3054
01:49:43,510 --> 01:49:41,840
and that may have been what they were

3055
01:49:44,470 --> 01:49:43,520
initially intended to do all along

3056
01:49:45,669 --> 01:49:44,480
they'd everybody thought oh they're

3057
01:49:46,870 --> 01:49:45,679
going to bring us disclosure

3058
01:49:48,950 --> 01:49:46,880
and they didn't have any intention of

3059
01:49:50,629 --> 01:49:48,960
bringing us disclosure

3060
01:49:52,149 --> 01:49:50,639
at all it was a totally different

3061
01:49:53,189 --> 01:49:52,159
mission because most of the mission in

3062
01:49:55,910 --> 01:49:53,199
the last couple of years

3063
01:49:56,790 --> 01:49:55,920
has been that hammering away the the the

3064
01:49:59,510 --> 01:49:56,800
briefings

3065
01:49:59,990 --> 01:49:59,520
all that kind of stuff bringing in like

3066
01:50:02,870 --> 01:50:00,000
you know

3067
01:50:04,470 --> 01:50:02,880
davis and put off and and louis alzando

3068
01:50:05,750 --> 01:50:04,480
and doing the briefings and scaring the

3069
01:50:06,229 --> 01:50:05,760
living daylights out of the congress

3070
01:50:07,669 --> 01:50:06,239
guys

3071
01:50:09,350 --> 01:50:07,679
and it's worked they've got the money

3072
01:50:11,510 --> 01:50:09,360
they've they've got this

3073
01:50:13,030 --> 01:50:11,520
day thing the reports are coming out the

3074
01:50:14,870 --> 01:50:13,040
money's flowing now everybody's going to

3075
01:50:17,030 --> 01:50:14,880
be happy everybody's got a you know

3076
01:50:18,390 --> 01:50:17,040
uh some some research money and that's

3077
01:50:19,109 --> 01:50:18,400
something we've never had in the ufo

3078
01:50:22,149 --> 01:50:19,119
community

3079
01:50:25,350 --> 01:50:22,159
now with the uap task force

3080
01:50:28,390 --> 01:50:25,360
uh do we have any idea what has been

3081
01:50:30,709 --> 01:50:28,400
budgeted to the uap task force

3082
01:50:31,669 --> 01:50:30,719
do they actually have physical offices

3083
01:50:35,189 --> 01:50:31,679
in the pentagon

3084
01:50:35,830 --> 01:50:35,199
is it staffed with human beings or is

3085
01:50:39,030 --> 01:50:35,840
this

3086
01:50:41,510 --> 01:50:39,040
on paper only kind of like a tip right

3087
01:50:43,350 --> 01:50:41,520
an awesome you know there wasn't an atip

3088
01:50:46,870 --> 01:50:43,360
office at the pentagon

3089
01:50:49,430 --> 01:50:46,880
right okay i i

3090
01:50:50,790 --> 01:50:49,440
lou did mention that he knows the guys

3091
01:50:53,270 --> 01:50:50,800
who are running it

3092
01:50:55,030 --> 01:50:53,280
um so which indicates that they are the

3093
01:50:56,550 --> 01:50:55,040
the word that i sort of got was they had

3094
01:50:56,950 --> 01:50:56,560
scraped some money together from old

3095
01:51:00,790 --> 01:50:56,960
from

3096
01:51:04,550 --> 01:51:00,800
going

3097
01:51:06,229 --> 01:51:04,560
um but um in terms of

3098
01:51:07,750 --> 01:51:06,239
what kind of budget they have i haven't

3099
01:51:09,270 --> 01:51:07,760
heard anything like that yet i just

3100
01:51:10,870 --> 01:51:09,280
heard this 180 days everybody keeps

3101
01:51:12,629 --> 01:51:10,880
talking about 180 days

3102
01:51:14,229 --> 01:51:12,639
that this report has to be released by

3103
01:51:16,070 --> 01:51:14,239
the senate intelligence committee or

3104
01:51:18,070 --> 01:51:16,080
whatever

3105
01:51:19,750 --> 01:51:18,080
yes yeah and that it'll have a

3106
01:51:20,229 --> 01:51:19,760
classified annex and all this kind of

3107
01:51:21,430 --> 01:51:20,239
stuff

3108
01:51:23,350 --> 01:51:21,440
but that's what everybody's betting on

3109
01:51:23,830 --> 01:51:23,360
and everybody just moves from one step

3110
01:51:25,669 --> 01:51:23,840
to

3111
01:51:27,430 --> 01:51:25,679
the next the next hopeful or this and

3112
01:51:28,870 --> 01:51:27,440
this i think we're har

3113
01:51:31,830 --> 01:51:28,880
i think we're farther ahead in the game

3114
01:51:34,790 --> 01:51:31,840
than we were a couple months ago

3115
01:51:36,950 --> 01:51:34,800
definitely farther ahead than 2017. uh

3116
01:51:38,790 --> 01:51:36,960
before 2017 we were still the rodney

3117
01:51:41,350 --> 01:51:38,800
danger field of science

3118
01:51:42,149 --> 01:51:41,360
we are not anymore they've at least done

3119
01:51:44,790 --> 01:51:42,159
that

3120
01:51:46,709 --> 01:51:44,800
and for me from my and i wrote about it

3121
01:51:48,709 --> 01:51:46,719
before it happened

3122
01:51:50,070 --> 01:51:48,719
i the indication that i got that this

3123
01:51:52,950 --> 01:51:50,080
was all set up that

3124
01:51:53,270 --> 01:51:52,960
um jim semivan was partly behind getting

3125
01:51:56,310 --> 01:51:53,280
this

3126
01:51:58,310 --> 01:51:56,320
new york times

3127
01:51:59,669 --> 01:51:58,320
and that when leslie kane went it wasn't

3128
01:52:00,709 --> 01:51:59,679
just lou alexander there was a bunch of

3129
01:52:02,550 --> 01:52:00,719
intelligence guys

3130
01:52:04,790 --> 01:52:02,560
or you see the thing when jim when the

3131
01:52:07,030 --> 01:52:04,800
the story of of um

3132
01:52:09,350 --> 01:52:07,040
of tom delong you know the story where

3133
01:52:11,430 --> 01:52:09,360
uh jim semivan finds out about him he

3134
01:52:12,149 --> 01:52:11,440
releases the 2016 book and they suddenly

3135
01:52:14,310 --> 01:52:12,159
go like

3136
01:52:16,229 --> 01:52:14,320
what the heck is going and they get him

3137
01:52:17,350 --> 01:52:16,239
in a hotel room in san diego

3138
01:52:19,189 --> 01:52:17,360
i don't know if he told that story on

3139
01:52:19,430 --> 01:52:19,199
your show or where he told it but they

3140
01:52:21,189 --> 01:52:19,440
had

3141
01:52:23,109 --> 01:52:21,199
the six intelligence agents so it was

3142
01:52:24,310 --> 01:52:23,119
wrong so it'd be semi-van and five other

3143
01:52:25,350 --> 01:52:24,320
guys and for two days

3144
01:52:26,790 --> 01:52:25,360
they were asking them like where'd you

3145
01:52:28,070 --> 01:52:26,800
get this from where'd you get this from

3146
01:52:29,270 --> 01:52:28,080
and then of course what do they do they

3147
01:52:29,750 --> 01:52:29,280
arrest them throw them in jail no they

3148
01:52:31,270 --> 01:52:29,760
say

3149
01:52:32,629 --> 01:52:31,280
okay we'll help you and they start

3150
01:52:33,189 --> 01:52:32,639
feeding them and that's the thing is

3151
01:52:35,109 --> 01:52:33,199
everybody's

3152
01:52:36,390 --> 01:52:35,119
sort of getting on the same page and

3153
01:52:38,310 --> 01:52:36,400
it's the government working

3154
01:52:39,510 --> 01:52:38,320
through other people and maybe tom

3155
01:52:41,030 --> 01:52:39,520
delong's job is done

3156
01:52:42,470 --> 01:52:41,040
in fact he i think he's been he's not

3157
01:52:43,270 --> 01:52:42,480
even really been doing ufos he's doing

3158
01:52:44,629 --> 01:52:43,280
another

3159
01:52:46,310 --> 01:52:44,639
album or something i don't think he's

3160
01:52:48,629 --> 01:52:46,320
really and he's working on

3161
01:52:49,990 --> 01:52:48,639
on uh you know shows and stuff i don't

3162
01:52:51,510 --> 01:52:50,000
think he's really done much ufo i've

3163
01:52:53,750 --> 01:52:51,520
never really heard much in the last

3164
01:52:55,270 --> 01:52:53,760
say year from him talking about ufos and

3165
01:52:56,950 --> 01:52:55,280
stuff because i think they shut him down

3166
01:52:57,830 --> 01:52:56,960
he was he was bad news he was

3167
01:52:59,350 --> 01:52:57,840
you know he would say things he

3168
01:53:00,470 --> 01:52:59,360
shouldn't have been saying and in a

3169
01:53:04,709 --> 01:53:00,480
controlled

3170
01:53:06,709 --> 01:53:04,719
operation uh he had um

3171
01:53:07,990 --> 01:53:06,719
done his damage and they sort of uh

3172
01:53:09,990 --> 01:53:08,000
pulled him out he got caught

3173
01:53:11,109 --> 01:53:10,000
you know putting these classified names

3174
01:53:13,510 --> 01:53:11,119
in the uh

3175
01:53:14,870 --> 01:53:13,520
the emails to podesta and then when the

3176
01:53:17,589 --> 01:53:14,880
wikileaks released

3177
01:53:18,629 --> 01:53:17,599
then suddenly uh the head of lockheed

3178
01:53:21,910 --> 01:53:18,639
skunk works

3179
01:53:24,390 --> 01:53:21,920
and uh you know mckay and mccaslin

3180
01:53:25,430 --> 01:53:24,400
were all exposed as being involved and

3181
01:53:28,390 --> 01:53:25,440
and being part of this

3182
01:53:28,790 --> 01:53:28,400
operation and they had to run for cover

3183
01:53:32,149 --> 01:53:28,800
so

3184
01:53:34,149 --> 01:53:32,159
in the end i think people are going to

3185
01:53:35,589 --> 01:53:34,159
be pretty happy in terms of uh

3186
01:53:37,510 --> 01:53:35,599
that we're fact i think we're farther

3187
01:53:39,750 --> 01:53:37,520
ahead than we were uh

3188
01:53:41,510 --> 01:53:39,760
years ago despite all the problems that

3189
01:53:42,950 --> 01:53:41,520
they've had which may not be problems

3190
01:53:46,070 --> 01:53:42,960
they may actually be things

3191
01:53:49,270 --> 01:53:46,080
that were planned all along now uh

3192
01:53:52,709 --> 01:53:49,280
do you think that the senate

3193
01:53:55,750 --> 01:53:52,719
intelligence committee and the uap

3194
01:53:59,350 --> 01:53:55,760
task force are dealing

3195
01:54:02,950 --> 01:53:59,360
with and investigating e.t

3196
01:54:07,430 --> 01:54:02,960
from off planet or is this

3197
01:54:08,550 --> 01:54:07,440
only put together to look at terrestrial

3198
01:54:10,470 --> 01:54:08,560
technology

3199
01:54:12,870 --> 01:54:10,480
what do you think the understanding is

3200
01:54:15,589 --> 01:54:12,880
for the establishment of the uap

3201
01:54:15,990 --> 01:54:15,599
task force well one of the things that

3202
01:54:17,750 --> 01:54:16,000
that

3203
01:54:19,750 --> 01:54:17,760
james fox brought up about his

3204
01:54:20,950 --> 01:54:19,760
documentary was at the end he had put in

3205
01:54:23,030 --> 01:54:20,960
that thing with the

3206
01:54:24,149 --> 01:54:23,040
uh the african with the kids with the

3207
01:54:26,390 --> 01:54:24,159
alien

3208
01:54:27,430 --> 01:54:26,400
and that he was afraid that that reed

3209
01:54:29,109 --> 01:54:27,440
was going to

3210
01:54:31,109 --> 01:54:29,119
uh withdraw his support for the movie

3211
01:54:32,870 --> 01:54:31,119
because reed doesn't want he

3212
01:54:34,870 --> 01:54:32,880
if he heard reed talk about it former

3213
01:54:36,310 --> 01:54:34,880
senator reed he always says okay we want

3214
01:54:37,830 --> 01:54:36,320
to look at the ufo

3215
01:54:39,270 --> 01:54:37,840
at the you know the russians and the

3216
01:54:39,669 --> 01:54:39,280
chinese not getting it and that sort of

3217
01:54:40,709 --> 01:54:39,679
stuff

3218
01:54:42,629 --> 01:54:40,719
and we don't want to talk about the

3219
01:54:43,990 --> 01:54:42,639
little green men and you see this all

3220
01:54:44,550 --> 01:54:44,000
the new york times did the same thing

3221
01:54:47,430 --> 01:54:44,560
we're not

3222
01:54:48,229 --> 01:54:47,440
aliens and so i think what you're going

3223
01:54:51,430 --> 01:54:48,239
to get is

3224
01:54:52,950 --> 01:54:51,440
is a report that's basically navy

3225
01:54:55,189 --> 01:54:52,960
because you don't hear the air force you

3226
01:54:58,070 --> 01:54:55,199
don't hear any other agencies involved

3227
01:54:58,870 --> 01:54:58,080
it's the navy and defense intelligence

3228
01:55:00,390 --> 01:54:58,880
agency

3229
01:55:02,149 --> 01:55:00,400
and it's going to be these encounters

3230
01:55:03,030 --> 01:55:02,159
between the navy

3231
01:55:04,870 --> 01:55:03,040
and they're going to have the same

3232
01:55:05,910 --> 01:55:04,880
problem as obama that you've got to be

3233
01:55:08,149 --> 01:55:05,920
able to find it so

3234
01:55:10,229 --> 01:55:08,159
if you're a senator and i know there was

3235
01:55:11,189 --> 01:55:10,239
a an email that i had gotten with ron

3236
01:55:12,790 --> 01:55:11,199
pandolfi

3237
01:55:14,470 --> 01:55:12,800
where we're gonna put it in a book

3238
01:55:15,669 --> 01:55:14,480
called alien documents which should be

3239
01:55:17,430 --> 01:55:15,679
out maybe next year or whatever

3240
01:55:18,950 --> 01:55:17,440
and in there it shows that he's

3241
01:55:21,350 --> 01:55:18,960
definitely the the

3242
01:55:22,629 --> 01:55:21,360
the keeper of the of the secrets he's

3243
01:55:24,310 --> 01:55:22,639
the he has the keys

3244
01:55:26,950 --> 01:55:24,320
and he basically says you know when i

3245
01:55:29,669 --> 01:55:26,960
get when i get a request for a senator

3246
01:55:31,350 --> 01:55:29,679
briefing i say to him okay here's here's

3247
01:55:32,790 --> 01:55:31,360
here's i'll give you the keys

3248
01:55:33,990 --> 01:55:32,800
but just remember that when you go to

3249
01:55:35,350 --> 01:55:34,000
get the information you're now

3250
01:55:37,189 --> 01:55:35,360
responsible for it

3251
01:55:38,870 --> 01:55:37,199
and he says everybody just says oh okay

3252
01:55:41,189 --> 01:55:38,880
you handle the keys and and they

3253
01:55:42,870 --> 01:55:41,199
he backs off the senators by this and so

3254
01:55:43,589 --> 01:55:42,880
senators don't have as much power as the

3255
01:55:45,030 --> 01:55:43,599
president

3256
01:55:46,709 --> 01:55:45,040
that i think there's going to be a lot

3257
01:55:48,550 --> 01:55:46,719
of stonewalling

3258
01:55:50,149 --> 01:55:48,560
and almost like when you see back in the

3259
01:55:52,149 --> 01:55:50,159
in the clinton days when

3260
01:55:53,830 --> 01:55:52,159
uh congressman schiff was trying to get

3261
01:55:54,790 --> 01:55:53,840
it they basically sent him the national

3262
01:55:57,350 --> 01:55:54,800
archives and stuff

3263
01:55:57,910 --> 01:55:57,360
the congressmen don't have as much power

3264
01:55:59,910 --> 01:55:57,920
to fight

3265
01:56:01,270 --> 01:55:59,920
so i wouldn't be surprised if it's sort

3266
01:56:03,830 --> 01:56:01,280
of a a whitewash

3267
01:56:04,550 --> 01:56:03,840
type thing where but you've at least got

3268
01:56:05,990 --> 01:56:04,560
guys like

3269
01:56:08,070 --> 01:56:06,000
hell put off who've done the briefings

3270
01:56:09,830 --> 01:56:08,080
there uh eric davis

3271
01:56:11,109 --> 01:56:09,840
and and these guys who know that there's

3272
01:56:14,310 --> 01:56:11,119
crash saucer material

3273
01:56:15,910 --> 01:56:14,320
who are gonna push and if the senate

3274
01:56:18,870 --> 01:56:15,920
intelligence committee goes along with

3275
01:56:22,229 --> 01:56:18,880
that and pushes along as well

3276
01:56:23,510 --> 01:56:22,239
you you may uh you may get something so

3277
01:56:24,709 --> 01:56:23,520
at least they know

3278
01:56:26,390 --> 01:56:24,719
you've got the right people briefing

3279
01:56:28,149 --> 01:56:26,400
them it's not just senators if it was

3280
01:56:31,430 --> 01:56:28,159
just senators without

3281
01:56:32,149 --> 01:56:31,440
louis without louisando and eric davis

3282
01:56:33,430 --> 01:56:32,159
and put off

3283
01:56:35,430 --> 01:56:33,440
they'd be totally lost they would not

3284
01:56:37,189 --> 01:56:35,440
get anywhere but these guys know

3285
01:56:38,550 --> 01:56:37,199
sort of where all the bodies are buried

3286
01:56:41,750 --> 01:56:38,560
and they're going to be giving

3287
01:56:43,589 --> 01:56:41,760
leaks go here go there look here so

3288
01:56:45,189 --> 01:56:43,599
you you never know you may you may get

3289
01:56:46,550 --> 01:56:45,199
something and then you talk about louis

3290
01:56:47,750 --> 01:56:46,560
alexander keeps talking about the crash

3291
01:56:50,390 --> 01:56:47,760
cluster material now

3292
01:56:51,990 --> 01:56:50,400
so you may get some sort of confirmation

3293
01:56:53,189 --> 01:56:52,000
that they have some hardware because he

3294
01:56:54,550 --> 01:56:53,199
keeps talking about it

3295
01:56:55,990 --> 01:56:54,560
and he says he's got a security

3296
01:56:57,510 --> 01:56:56,000
clearance and he's not violating his

3297
01:56:58,790 --> 01:56:57,520
security clearance so he must have some

3298
01:57:00,229 --> 01:56:58,800
sort of authorization

3299
01:57:02,310 --> 01:57:00,239
to be doing these little leaks about the

3300
01:57:03,910 --> 01:57:02,320
fact that uh you know there's there's

3301
01:57:05,990 --> 01:57:03,920
there may be off-world material in

3302
01:57:08,310 --> 01:57:06,000
in hands of the us government i've got

3303
01:57:10,310 --> 01:57:08,320
two minutes before the break

3304
01:57:11,750 --> 01:57:10,320
what i'm suggesting here is if i'm a

3305
01:57:13,830 --> 01:57:11,760
reporter

3306
01:57:15,350 --> 01:57:13,840
uh for one of the networks and i go up

3307
01:57:17,990 --> 01:57:15,360
to marco rubio

3308
01:57:19,750 --> 01:57:18,000
and we're in the halls right at the

3309
01:57:22,870 --> 01:57:19,760
capitol building and i say you know

3310
01:57:26,709 --> 01:57:22,880
marco um so what's going on with uh

3311
01:57:28,229 --> 01:57:26,719
the ufo uh task force instead of uap

3312
01:57:29,830 --> 01:57:28,239
right and i said what's going on with

3313
01:57:32,629 --> 01:57:29,840
the ufo task force

3314
01:57:33,830 --> 01:57:32,639
and i flipped him he's i'm not sure if

3315
01:57:36,550 --> 01:57:33,840
his response is

3316
01:57:39,669 --> 01:57:36,560
yo you mean uap no we're not we're not

3317
01:57:42,310 --> 01:57:39,679
dealing with ufos it has nothing to do

3318
01:57:43,430 --> 01:57:42,320
with ufos this has to do with foreign

3319
01:57:45,350 --> 01:57:43,440
technology

3320
01:57:47,189 --> 01:57:45,360
i think that would be the response or do

3321
01:57:48,149 --> 01:57:47,199
you think he would come back with well

3322
01:57:50,229 --> 01:57:48,159
yeah we're

3323
01:57:52,149 --> 01:57:50,239
we're checking out flying saucers what

3324
01:57:55,270 --> 01:57:52,159
do you think that the direct

3325
01:57:56,470 --> 01:57:55,280
response would be for marco well

3326
01:57:57,510 --> 01:57:56,480
they're going to play the cautious game

3327
01:57:58,709 --> 01:57:57,520
they're going to say we really don't

3328
01:58:00,149 --> 01:57:58,719
know what we're dealing with we're just

3329
01:58:01,830 --> 01:58:00,159
this is unidentified that's the

3330
01:58:04,470 --> 01:58:01,840
the read position this is just

3331
01:58:07,109 --> 01:58:04,480
unidentified and we want to investigate

3332
01:58:08,229 --> 01:58:07,119
uh what it is and and what's going on

3333
01:58:10,870 --> 01:58:08,239
and we're not going to go

3334
01:58:12,470 --> 01:58:10,880
to awkward technology or aliens and

3335
01:58:13,109 --> 01:58:12,480
stuff like that you can be very cautious

3336
01:58:15,189 --> 01:58:13,119
and say

3337
01:58:16,310 --> 01:58:15,199
we really don't know and that may be the

3338
01:58:18,149 --> 01:58:16,320
principle because

3339
01:58:19,830 --> 01:58:18,159
i've every time i go we can talk a

3340
01:58:20,310 --> 01:58:19,840
couple later every time i go down this

3341
01:58:21,830 --> 01:58:20,320
road

3342
01:58:23,510 --> 01:58:21,840
it appears like the end of the wilson

3343
01:58:26,310 --> 01:58:23,520
documentaries is hoaxed

3344
01:58:28,149 --> 01:58:26,320
it says we've got off world we've got

3345
01:58:28,709 --> 01:58:28,159
technology we've got crashes we've got

3346
01:58:30,550 --> 01:58:28,719
bodies

3347
01:58:32,470 --> 01:58:30,560
and we haven't got the foggiest notion

3348
01:58:34,070 --> 01:58:32,480
of what's going on and that may be the

3349
01:58:35,430 --> 01:58:34,080
truth you may have gotten disclosure

3350
01:58:36,950 --> 01:58:35,440
that they really don't know what this

3351
01:58:38,229 --> 01:58:36,960
stuff is they got films they got bodies

3352
01:58:39,270 --> 01:58:38,239
they got crafts they can't turn the

3353
01:58:40,790 --> 01:58:39,280
crafts on because they've got

3354
01:58:42,790 --> 01:58:40,800
consciousness connection to it

3355
01:58:44,550 --> 01:58:42,800
and and i keep seeing this over and over

3356
01:58:45,669 --> 01:58:44,560
again that people think they've got all

3357
01:58:47,589 --> 01:58:45,679
this technology and stuff

3358
01:58:49,270 --> 01:58:47,599
that may not be true they may actually

3359
01:58:51,350 --> 01:58:49,280
the briefing that they gave to trump

3360
01:58:53,030 --> 01:58:51,360
maybe the actual briefing mr president

3361
01:58:54,550 --> 01:58:53,040
here's these videos we've got these

3362
01:58:55,589 --> 01:58:54,560
videos these are real they're

3363
01:58:57,189 --> 01:58:55,599
unidentified

3364
01:58:58,790 --> 01:58:57,199
we don't know what they are and the

3365
01:59:01,270 --> 01:58:58,800
trump goes yeah i don't know i don't

3366
01:59:04,790 --> 01:59:02,950
yeah let's take our break right here our

3367
01:59:07,350 --> 01:59:04,800
guest tonight grant cameron

3368
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3369
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3370
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3371
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3372
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3373
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3374
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3375
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3444
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3445
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3446
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3447
02:02:23,830 --> 02:02:22,000
you can see them flying or running

3448
02:02:27,430 --> 02:02:23,840
across the floor

3449
02:02:28,870 --> 02:02:27,440
ooh yuck they're unhealthy gross and

3450
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3451
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3452
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3453
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3454
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3455
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3456
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3460
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3461
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3462
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3463
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3482
02:03:58,629 --> 02:03:54,800
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3483
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3484
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3485
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3486
02:04:10,790 --> 02:04:05,440
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3487
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3488
02:04:15,270 --> 02:04:12,960
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3489
02:04:32,229 --> 02:04:15,280
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3490
02:04:36,069 --> 02:04:34,149
welcome back fade to black i'm your host

3491
02:04:40,870 --> 02:04:36,079
jimmy church tonight grant cameron

3492
02:04:42,390 --> 02:04:40,880
is here our second to last show for 2020

3493
02:04:44,149 --> 02:04:42,400
got to bring in the best brought in

3494
02:04:47,589 --> 02:04:44,159
grant tomorrow night

3495
02:04:50,390 --> 02:04:47,599
final show of 2020 dr stephen greer

3496
02:04:51,950 --> 02:04:50,400
is with us now talking about some of

3497
02:04:55,109 --> 02:04:51,960
these big stories of

3498
02:04:57,430 --> 02:04:55,119
2020 grant and

3499
02:04:58,790 --> 02:04:57,440
ended the year with the bang when the

3500
02:05:03,109 --> 02:04:58,800
debrief

3501
02:05:06,870 --> 02:05:03,119
uh released uh the image

3502
02:05:07,990 --> 02:05:06,880
uh from a parent classified uh security

3503
02:05:11,589 --> 02:05:08,000
document

3504
02:05:13,669 --> 02:05:11,599
of an f-18 pilot and uh of something

3505
02:05:16,550 --> 02:05:13,679
that he took outside of his cockpit

3506
02:05:17,270 --> 02:05:16,560
window uh when he first saw the

3507
02:05:18,709 --> 02:05:17,280
photograph

3508
02:05:21,910 --> 02:05:18,719
uh would you what'd you think you were

3509
02:05:25,430 --> 02:05:24,149
well i always look at it the same way so

3510
02:05:29,189 --> 02:05:25,440
immediately i

3511
02:05:30,709 --> 02:05:29,199
i'm i'm thinking my father is a pilot my

3512
02:05:32,870 --> 02:05:30,719
son's a pilot

3513
02:05:34,149 --> 02:05:32,880
you don't take your cell phone on an fa

3514
02:05:36,310 --> 02:05:34,159
you know an f-18

3515
02:05:37,189 --> 02:05:36,320
jet fighter i mean that was the first

3516
02:05:39,030 --> 02:05:37,199
thing that was

3517
02:05:40,870 --> 02:05:39,040
and now tonight they've actually like

3518
02:05:42,709 --> 02:05:40,880
debris is involved in this again

3519
02:05:44,709 --> 02:05:42,719
they're talking again tonight that this

3520
02:05:45,910 --> 02:05:44,719
thing was on the internet already

3521
02:05:48,229 --> 02:05:45,920
they've admitted this thing was on the

3522
02:05:49,750 --> 02:05:48,239
internet already when i saw it i

3523
02:05:51,750 --> 02:05:49,760
because we had we've had the story

3524
02:05:53,430 --> 02:05:51,760
through bob mcguire

3525
02:05:54,950 --> 02:05:53,440
and bob mcguire had been on this

3526
02:05:55,669 --> 02:05:54,960
submarine and you knew the story about

3527
02:05:57,109 --> 02:05:55,679
the triangle

3528
02:05:59,430 --> 02:05:57,119
coming out of the water yes and they

3529
02:06:02,390 --> 02:05:59,440
were all upset about us because we went

3530
02:06:03,990 --> 02:06:02,400
with the story bob told us the story so

3531
02:06:05,589 --> 02:06:04,000
when i saw it i went that doesn't look

3532
02:06:07,350 --> 02:06:05,599
like a triangle coming out of the water

3533
02:06:12,229 --> 02:06:07,360
beside a submarine or whatever

3534
02:06:15,510 --> 02:06:12,239
and people have have rated it as a

3535
02:06:16,069 --> 02:06:15,520
batman mylar balloon i can guarantee you

3536
02:06:17,990 --> 02:06:16,079
it's not

3537
02:06:20,229 --> 02:06:18,000
yeah unless it's it's photoshopped

3538
02:06:20,790 --> 02:06:20,239
because i live in the coldest city in

3539
02:06:22,470 --> 02:06:20,800
the world

3540
02:06:25,350 --> 02:06:22,480
and i know that when you take a mylar

3541
02:06:26,790 --> 02:06:25,360
balloon in very cold weather

3542
02:06:28,709 --> 02:06:26,800
it will deflate before you get into the

3543
02:06:30,629 --> 02:06:28,719
car you'll walk out of the the store

3544
02:06:32,149 --> 02:06:30,639
and deflate before you get to the car

3545
02:06:33,669 --> 02:06:32,159
and when you when you get back to your

3546
02:06:35,030 --> 02:06:33,679
house then it will inflate again

3547
02:06:37,350 --> 02:06:35,040
so this is that so of course i

3548
02:06:40,390 --> 02:06:37,360
immediately looked at 30 000 feet

3549
02:06:41,830 --> 02:06:40,400
35 000 feet is 60 degrees below zero

3550
02:06:43,430 --> 02:06:41,840
that's that's a mylar balloon it's not

3551
02:06:44,709 --> 02:06:43,440
going to be nothing left of it so it may

3552
02:06:45,910 --> 02:06:44,719
have been something with photoshop

3553
02:06:46,790 --> 02:06:45,920
because it does look like a batman

3554
02:06:49,030 --> 02:06:46,800
balloon

3555
02:06:50,629 --> 02:06:49,040
so but then you get into this all the

3556
02:06:51,990 --> 02:06:50,639
the controversy it's the same story

3557
02:06:53,830 --> 02:06:52,000
you have the controversy should he have

3558
02:06:55,350 --> 02:06:53,840
had the cell phone how do you you know

3559
02:06:55,669 --> 02:06:55,360
what it's like if you've seen a plane go

3560
02:06:57,430 --> 02:06:55,679
by

3561
02:06:59,109 --> 02:06:57,440
on a when you're flying in a plane it

3562
02:07:01,589 --> 02:06:59,119
goes by it looks like a bullet

3563
02:07:03,910 --> 02:07:01,599
like how do you get it in the frame and

3564
02:07:06,069 --> 02:07:03,920
so it to me it's always this thing like

3565
02:07:07,430 --> 02:07:06,079
oh okay suddenly they released oh yeah

3566
02:07:08,709 --> 02:07:07,440
it was released already

3567
02:07:10,790 --> 02:07:08,719
it was on the internet and then you

3568
02:07:12,149 --> 02:07:10,800
started to think setup setup how did the

3569
02:07:13,109 --> 02:07:12,159
thing get out they're even asking these

3570
02:07:14,950 --> 02:07:13,119
questions tonight

3571
02:07:16,790 --> 02:07:14,960
how did it get out why is nobody in

3572
02:07:18,870 --> 02:07:16,800
trouble over this thing it's the same

3573
02:07:21,990 --> 02:07:18,880
story over and over again

3574
02:07:23,189 --> 02:07:22,000
and uh okay but you didn't answer my

3575
02:07:27,830 --> 02:07:23,199
question

3576
02:07:32,310 --> 02:07:27,840
what do you think you were looking at

3577
02:07:33,270 --> 02:07:32,320
um i i it was it wasn't a mylar balloon

3578
02:07:36,709 --> 02:07:33,280
i will say that

3579
02:07:39,350 --> 02:07:36,719
um it may it

3580
02:07:41,510 --> 02:07:39,360
i don't know i i have at first i thought

3581
02:07:43,030 --> 02:07:41,520
it was exactly what they said it was

3582
02:07:44,629 --> 02:07:43,040
because bob mcguire said he'd seen it in

3583
02:07:45,830 --> 02:07:44,639
classified channels but that doesn't

3584
02:07:47,589 --> 02:07:45,840
mean that they didn't float this thing

3585
02:07:51,189 --> 02:07:47,599
in classified channels

3586
02:07:55,109 --> 02:07:51,199
um i i don't think it's um

3587
02:07:56,550 --> 02:07:55,119
i don't know it to me it's it's

3588
02:07:58,870 --> 02:07:56,560
i i have more and more questions the

3589
02:08:00,229 --> 02:07:58,880
more i look at it that this may have

3590
02:08:02,390 --> 02:08:00,239
been a setup that they

3591
02:08:03,990 --> 02:08:02,400
they put this out that would be my my

3592
02:08:04,709 --> 02:08:04,000
estimate right now that i'm not sure

3593
02:08:06,470 --> 02:08:04,719
that it's

3594
02:08:07,830 --> 02:08:06,480
it's a ufo but it's not a mylar balloon

3595
02:08:08,950 --> 02:08:07,840
that's for sure it may have been

3596
02:08:11,830 --> 02:08:08,960
photoshopped

3597
02:08:12,310 --> 02:08:11,840
and uh my issues with it and you brought

3598
02:08:19,990 --> 02:08:12,320
up

3599
02:08:21,109 --> 02:08:20,000
that's the first thing i kind of checked

3600
02:08:23,030 --> 02:08:21,119
that off the list

3601
02:08:24,709 --> 02:08:23,040
the second thing is you can't really

3602
02:08:26,149 --> 02:08:24,719
triangulate because you don't have

3603
02:08:26,950 --> 02:08:26,159
anything in the background you have the

3604
02:08:29,669 --> 02:08:26,960
clouds

3605
02:08:30,390 --> 02:08:29,679
that are below but there's no way to

3606
02:08:33,589 --> 02:08:30,400
figure out

3607
02:08:37,430 --> 02:08:33,599
distance so there's no real way

3608
02:08:40,709 --> 02:08:37,440
to confirm its actual size without

3609
02:08:42,790 --> 02:08:40,719
talking to the pilot directly that's why

3610
02:08:46,709 --> 02:08:42,800
that's all of your information

3611
02:08:48,470 --> 02:08:46,719
just like the original ttsa videos

3612
02:08:50,310 --> 02:08:48,480
those are just videos they could be

3613
02:08:53,510 --> 02:08:50,320
anything it's the

3614
02:08:56,790 --> 02:08:53,520
pilots and the crew members that support

3615
02:08:59,430 --> 02:08:56,800
the story uh for those three videos

3616
02:09:01,830 --> 02:08:59,440
we need the pilot to come forward to

3617
02:09:04,069 --> 02:09:01,840
tell us what he saw how far away was it

3618
02:09:06,470 --> 02:09:04,079
how big was it how fast were you going

3619
02:09:07,109 --> 02:09:06,480
was it moving we need all of that

3620
02:09:10,709 --> 02:09:07,119
information

3621
02:09:14,629 --> 02:09:10,719
without the pilot's uh direct report

3622
02:09:17,430 --> 02:09:14,639
and the debrief of the pilot

3623
02:09:18,709 --> 02:09:17,440
we really don't have anything here do we

3624
02:09:20,390 --> 02:09:18,719
yeah plus we're missing the second

3625
02:09:22,069 --> 02:09:20,400
photograph so you see you start to see

3626
02:09:25,270 --> 02:09:22,079
these weird things happening like

3627
02:09:29,030 --> 02:09:25,280
uh so uh valet and and fox go

3628
02:09:29,669 --> 02:09:29,040
on uh joe rogan show when this story is

3629
02:09:31,669 --> 02:09:29,679
breaking

3630
02:09:32,950 --> 02:09:31,679
and they read this statement oh we'd

3631
02:09:34,310 --> 02:09:32,960
like to see the other photograph and

3632
02:09:35,830 --> 02:09:34,320
they're they're playing this

3633
02:09:37,430 --> 02:09:35,840
sort of a thing where they read this

3634
02:09:38,870 --> 02:09:37,440
statement from melon that

3635
02:09:40,709 --> 02:09:38,880
he'd like the other photograph and the

3636
02:09:41,189 --> 02:09:40,719
other photograph is the most spectacular

3637
02:09:42,470 --> 02:09:41,199
one

3638
02:09:44,470 --> 02:09:42,480
where it's it's actually coming out of

3639
02:09:44,790 --> 02:09:44,480
the water and stuff like that so it's

3640
02:09:48,790 --> 02:09:44,800
it's

3641
02:09:50,629 --> 02:09:48,800
the bob lazar story it looks good

3642
02:09:52,310 --> 02:09:50,639
uh there seems to be some truth to it

3643
02:09:53,589 --> 02:09:52,320
and then it all starts to fall apart and

3644
02:09:55,350 --> 02:09:53,599
and then all the researchers start

3645
02:09:57,109 --> 02:09:55,360
fighting oh it's a balloon it's this

3646
02:09:58,629 --> 02:09:57,119
and they did the same thing even with

3647
02:10:00,390 --> 02:09:58,639
the holman air force base film

3648
02:10:02,629 --> 02:10:00,400
when when i first got to holland air

3649
02:10:04,950 --> 02:10:02,639
force base bob emeneger who had the

3650
02:10:06,550 --> 02:10:04,960
uh had the film in his hands who got the

3651
02:10:08,709 --> 02:10:06,560
briefing who read the notes

3652
02:10:09,830 --> 02:10:08,719
i knew when it's taken place who filmed

3653
02:10:11,109 --> 02:10:09,840
it all this kind of stuff said it was

3654
02:10:12,550 --> 02:10:11,119
may of 1971.

3655
02:10:14,310 --> 02:10:12,560
as soon as we went public with that

3656
02:10:16,629 --> 02:10:14,320
story richard dodie came out and said no

3657
02:10:17,669 --> 02:10:16,639
it was uh april of 1964 and the aliens

3658
02:10:20,069 --> 02:10:17,679
got in the wrong spot

3659
02:10:21,589 --> 02:10:20,079
they got confused and they ended up in

3660
02:10:22,470 --> 02:10:21,599
in the wrong spot and it was it was

3661
02:10:24,870 --> 02:10:22,480
filmed

3662
02:10:26,229 --> 02:10:24,880
and then of course now so linda puts out

3663
02:10:26,790 --> 02:10:26,239
one story i put out the other story now

3664
02:10:28,310 --> 02:10:26,800
it's like

3665
02:10:29,990 --> 02:10:28,320
linda and i are it's a big fight about

3666
02:10:31,189 --> 02:10:30,000
who's who's right and who's wrong

3667
02:10:33,030 --> 02:10:31,199
so you always have this thing where

3668
02:10:34,470 --> 02:10:33,040
they're putting out double stories and

3669
02:10:34,870 --> 02:10:34,480
you really can't get to the story

3670
02:10:36,950 --> 02:10:34,880
they're

3671
02:10:38,470 --> 02:10:36,960
always the same thing there's if and

3672
02:10:39,270 --> 02:10:38,480
it's the old deal is if they want this

3673
02:10:41,990 --> 02:10:39,280
thing out

3674
02:10:43,109 --> 02:10:42,000
they will stand up and release it

3675
02:10:45,270 --> 02:10:43,119
officially

3676
02:10:46,709 --> 02:10:45,280
with signature and stuff it's all coming

3677
02:10:48,149 --> 02:10:46,719
through the back door the same thing as

3678
02:10:49,830 --> 02:10:48,159
the the nimitz videos

3679
02:10:51,669 --> 02:10:49,840
you do not want even if they're

3680
02:10:54,149 --> 02:10:51,679
unclassified you do not

3681
02:10:54,870 --> 02:10:54,159
walk out of the pentagon with three

3682
02:10:57,510 --> 02:10:54,880
videos

3683
02:10:58,629 --> 02:10:57,520
someone got it out of there and then you

3684
02:11:01,350 --> 02:10:58,639
had this stuff

3685
02:11:02,470 --> 02:11:01,360
that leaked off of melon's uh website if

3686
02:11:04,229 --> 02:11:02,480
you know that whole story

3687
02:11:05,510 --> 02:11:04,239
that the luella is on the resignation

3688
02:11:07,510 --> 02:11:05,520
letter and the

3689
02:11:08,790 --> 02:11:07,520
the photograph of the the discs that had

3690
02:11:10,870 --> 02:11:08,800
the the nimitz thing

3691
02:11:12,390 --> 02:11:10,880
and on there's a name and i actually had

3692
02:11:14,390 --> 02:11:12,400
it checked by somebody

3693
02:11:15,830 --> 02:11:14,400
that i had a contact with the pentagon

3694
02:11:17,750 --> 02:11:15,840
and it was a woman

3695
02:11:19,510 --> 02:11:17,760
it was this essex rhonda essex was the

3696
02:11:20,629 --> 02:11:19,520
woman's name so then you start putting

3697
02:11:22,310 --> 02:11:20,639
these pieces together

3698
02:11:23,669 --> 02:11:22,320
that there was assistance to get these

3699
02:11:26,950 --> 02:11:23,679
videos out of the pentagon

3700
02:11:28,310 --> 02:11:26,960
that there is help from the inside and

3701
02:11:29,990 --> 02:11:28,320
that's what people always leave out they

3702
02:11:31,510 --> 02:11:30,000
sort of just assume that oh yeah they

3703
02:11:32,390 --> 02:11:31,520
got the videos and they declassified

3704
02:11:34,390 --> 02:11:32,400
them they brought them out

3705
02:11:35,589 --> 02:11:34,400
that's not how the process works the

3706
02:11:37,669 --> 02:11:35,599
same as this one

3707
02:11:39,109 --> 02:11:37,679
that the the video the photograph was

3708
02:11:41,189 --> 02:11:39,119
out already it was floating around

3709
02:11:42,709 --> 02:11:41,199
same as the nimitz was was offered to

3710
02:11:45,350 --> 02:11:42,719
this german production company

3711
02:11:45,910 --> 02:11:45,360
in 2007 it was floating around long time

3712
02:11:47,669 --> 02:11:45,920
ago

3713
02:11:49,030 --> 02:11:47,679
they're leaking this stuff all the time

3714
02:11:50,550 --> 02:11:49,040
but they cover their tracks there's

3715
02:11:52,390 --> 02:11:50,560
always plausible deniability

3716
02:11:53,830 --> 02:11:52,400
you can never track it down so they're

3717
02:11:54,229 --> 02:11:53,840
telling the story without telling the

3718
02:11:56,229 --> 02:11:54,239
story

3719
02:11:57,830 --> 02:11:56,239
nobody can confirm any of the stories

3720
02:11:58,470 --> 02:11:57,840
that are coming out and we're building a

3721
02:12:01,270 --> 02:11:58,480
whole world

3722
02:12:02,390 --> 02:12:01,280
view based upon nimitz based upon uh

3723
02:12:04,229 --> 02:12:02,400
this video

3724
02:12:06,310 --> 02:12:04,239
based upon this photograph all this kind

3725
02:12:09,589 --> 02:12:06,320
of stuff and we can't prove any of it is

3726
02:12:11,430 --> 02:12:09,599
the debrief the new ttsa

3727
02:12:12,950 --> 02:12:11,440
that could be yeah exactly there that's

3728
02:12:15,189 --> 02:12:12,960
the thing they they've they've

3729
02:12:16,709 --> 02:12:15,199
in fact mellon went on there tonight

3730
02:12:20,229 --> 02:12:16,719
talking to them so

3731
02:12:22,709 --> 02:12:20,239
they're the new sort of uh spokes

3732
02:12:24,709 --> 02:12:22,719
people they're more conservative in in

3733
02:12:25,990 --> 02:12:24,719
terms of how they handle the story

3734
02:12:27,830 --> 02:12:26,000
and it always comes down to this thing

3735
02:12:28,550 --> 02:12:27,840
where you'll keep confidential sources

3736
02:12:29,990 --> 02:12:28,560
they were talking

3737
02:12:32,310 --> 02:12:30,000
tonight some of the people that are

3738
02:12:33,350 --> 02:12:32,320
involved oh well we we don't release the

3739
02:12:34,149 --> 02:12:33,360
stuff because we're going to lose our

3740
02:12:35,430 --> 02:12:34,159
sources

3741
02:12:37,830 --> 02:12:35,440
but the worst thing you can do in the

3742
02:12:39,270 --> 02:12:37,840
ufo community is allow an intelligence

3743
02:12:40,550 --> 02:12:39,280
officer to come to you and say

3744
02:12:43,109 --> 02:12:40,560
i'm going to give you a video but keep

3745
02:12:43,589 --> 02:12:43,119
my name confidential because he's got

3746
02:12:46,470 --> 02:12:43,599
you

3747
02:12:47,430 --> 02:12:46,480
for life i've been made numerous offers

3748
02:12:49,589 --> 02:12:47,440
and i've said no

3749
02:12:51,750 --> 02:12:49,599
i had one phone call from one of ron's

3750
02:12:52,069 --> 02:12:51,760
associates and said oh us intelligence

3751
02:12:54,149 --> 02:12:52,079
says

3752
02:12:56,149 --> 02:12:54,159
uh we should talk to you i said are you

3753
02:12:57,830 --> 02:12:56,159
kidding me come on i'm a canadian

3754
02:12:59,750 --> 02:12:57,840
why would u.s intelligence want to talk

3755
02:13:00,550 --> 02:12:59,760
to me and but they're doing this thing

3756
02:13:01,830 --> 02:13:00,560
and it's always this

3757
02:13:03,189 --> 02:13:01,840
it never comes through the main guy

3758
02:13:04,790 --> 02:13:03,199
comes through somebody secondary and

3759
02:13:07,510 --> 02:13:04,800
it's always keep my name secret and

3760
02:13:08,629 --> 02:13:07,520
and they hate me a lot of the people are

3761
02:13:10,550 --> 02:13:08,639
upset with me

3762
02:13:12,470 --> 02:13:10,560
because i just don't keep on my shot i

3763
02:13:13,910 --> 02:13:12,480
will not make the deal if someone says i

3764
02:13:15,510 --> 02:13:13,920
got a secret for you

3765
02:13:17,270 --> 02:13:15,520
can you keep it secret i said no don't

3766
02:13:19,350 --> 02:13:17,280
tell me i'm telling everybody it's

3767
02:13:22,229 --> 02:13:19,360
enough of this game

3768
02:13:23,270 --> 02:13:22,239
at the top then we got mj 12 2.0 then we

3769
02:13:23,830 --> 02:13:23,280
got all the researchers with their

3770
02:13:25,589 --> 02:13:23,840
secrets

3771
02:13:26,950 --> 02:13:25,599
and it's just this multiple thing the

3772
02:13:28,310 --> 02:13:26,960
worst thing you can do is have these

3773
02:13:30,069 --> 02:13:28,320
confidential secrets

3774
02:13:32,149 --> 02:13:30,079
or sources because that's how they hide

3775
02:13:33,030 --> 02:13:32,159
the story yeah i've i've said it a

3776
02:13:36,390 --> 02:13:33,040
million times

3777
02:13:37,990 --> 02:13:36,400
i'm going public you give them you give

3778
02:13:41,430 --> 02:13:38,000
i'm talking

3779
02:13:43,589 --> 02:13:41,440
uh and i'm okay with that um what about

3780
02:13:47,430 --> 02:13:43,599
the second photograph

3781
02:13:49,990 --> 02:13:47,440
um has anybody seen it

3782
02:13:50,870 --> 02:13:50,000
yet yeah yeah bob mcguire saw it that's

3783
02:13:53,109 --> 02:13:50,880
why we put bob

3784
02:13:55,109 --> 02:13:53,119
we interviewed bob mcguire and he said

3785
02:13:56,149 --> 02:13:55,119
yes i saw it and then he put out a

3786
02:13:58,950 --> 02:13:56,159
photograph

3787
02:14:00,550 --> 02:13:58,960
and he said here's a here's a ship uh

3788
02:14:01,910 --> 02:14:00,560
that might be involved in it and it's

3789
02:14:04,790 --> 02:14:01,920
it's a submarine

3790
02:14:06,390 --> 02:14:04,800
and bob was an intelligence guy with the

3791
02:14:08,629 --> 02:14:06,400
institute for defense analysis

3792
02:14:09,990 --> 02:14:08,639
scientific guy and he takes a photograph

3793
02:14:11,109 --> 02:14:10,000
of himself on the submarine on the

3794
02:14:12,149 --> 02:14:11,119
outside not the inside because that's

3795
02:14:14,390 --> 02:14:12,159
classified

3796
02:14:16,149 --> 02:14:14,400
and it sort of indicates that he saw

3797
02:14:17,830 --> 02:14:16,159
this photograph and he said it's got the

3798
02:14:18,870 --> 02:14:17,840
lights on it and it's a triangle coming

3799
02:14:20,470 --> 02:14:18,880
out of the water

3800
02:14:22,069 --> 02:14:20,480
and then the the brief people all got

3801
02:14:23,510 --> 02:14:22,079
upset with us like oh you guys should be

3802
02:14:25,510 --> 02:14:23,520
embarrassed because you uh

3803
02:14:27,270 --> 02:14:25,520
you know you can't this wasn't your

3804
02:14:28,950 --> 02:14:27,280
story and it's like well no we got the

3805
02:14:31,189 --> 02:14:28,960
guy that actually saw the photograph

3806
02:14:33,030 --> 02:14:31,199
and so we put it out and and the twitter

3807
02:14:33,750 --> 02:14:33,040
went crazy and everybody was you know

3808
02:14:35,589 --> 02:14:33,760
going after

3809
02:14:37,030 --> 02:14:35,599
nicole sakage and i because we put it

3810
02:14:38,950 --> 02:14:37,040
out uh but

3811
02:14:40,629 --> 02:14:38,960
that photograph has been has been

3812
02:14:41,030 --> 02:14:40,639
withheld so it's the same thing it's

3813
02:14:42,310 --> 02:14:41,040
like

3814
02:14:43,830 --> 02:14:42,320
all the materials not coming out it's

3815
02:14:45,030 --> 02:14:43,840
the same i heard at one point they had

3816
02:14:48,470 --> 02:14:45,040
200 videos

3817
02:14:49,430 --> 02:14:48,480
these things were going to come out and

3818
02:14:50,870 --> 02:14:49,440
and this sort of stuff

3819
02:14:52,390 --> 02:14:50,880
and it's the same thing you dangle it

3820
02:14:53,510 --> 02:14:52,400
out people talk about it that's all they

3821
02:14:54,950 --> 02:14:53,520
want people to do is talk about the

3822
02:14:57,109 --> 02:14:54,960
story talk about the story

3823
02:14:58,470 --> 02:14:57,119
and and you're never going to confirm it

3824
02:14:59,750 --> 02:14:58,480
because if they want you to confirm it

3825
02:15:00,550 --> 02:14:59,760
they would stand up and tell you they're

3826
02:15:02,390 --> 02:15:00,560
not doing it

3827
02:15:03,750 --> 02:15:02,400
they're doing this gradual disclosure

3828
02:15:05,430 --> 02:15:03,760
thing where they always

3829
02:15:06,790 --> 02:15:05,440
control the thing once you spill the

3830
02:15:08,310 --> 02:15:06,800
milk you can't put it back in the glass

3831
02:15:11,510 --> 02:15:08,320
they want to control the story

3832
02:15:13,189 --> 02:15:11,520
so it's this unsubstantiated stories

3833
02:15:14,629 --> 02:15:13,199
videos and they don't really care if

3834
02:15:16,229 --> 02:15:14,639
people say it's a hoax they just want

3835
02:15:18,310 --> 02:15:16,239
people talking about this kind of stuff

3836
02:15:20,310 --> 02:15:18,320
well i know bob is listening right now

3837
02:15:23,589 --> 02:15:20,320
bob email me

3838
02:15:25,430 --> 02:15:23,599
uh right now and if you want to call

3839
02:15:27,030 --> 02:15:25,440
into the show

3840
02:15:28,790 --> 02:15:27,040
i would love to hear from you right now

3841
02:15:31,030 --> 02:15:28,800
bob i know you're listening

3842
02:15:32,790 --> 02:15:31,040
shoot me an email with the phone number

3843
02:15:35,030 --> 02:15:32,800
that you're going to be calling from

3844
02:15:36,470 --> 02:15:35,040
and i'll bring you in uh to this

3845
02:15:41,109 --> 02:15:36,480
conversation right now

3846
02:15:44,229 --> 02:15:41,119
i saw bob's uh original tweet

3847
02:15:47,109 --> 02:15:44,239
um and i would have to ask bob this uh

3848
02:15:48,709 --> 02:15:47,119
directly i believe i reached out to him

3849
02:15:51,430 --> 02:15:48,719
um

3850
02:15:53,430 --> 02:15:51,440
was it the photograph that he is saying

3851
02:15:57,350 --> 02:15:53,440
that he saw

3852
02:15:59,430 --> 02:15:57,360
is it the one that was released by

3853
02:16:01,589 --> 02:15:59,440
the debrief you know the pilot the f-18

3854
02:16:04,390 --> 02:16:01,599
one because in the description

3855
02:16:05,189 --> 02:16:04,400
and the artist rendering right that i

3856
02:16:07,830 --> 02:16:05,199
saw and then

3857
02:16:09,669 --> 02:16:07,840
i'm looking at the the image in the

3858
02:16:12,390 --> 02:16:09,679
debrief article i'm like that's not a

3859
02:16:14,550 --> 02:16:12,400
that's not a triangle i don't see water

3860
02:16:17,750 --> 02:16:14,560
i don't see a 90 degree

3861
02:16:19,189 --> 02:16:17,760
you know exit from the ocean surface i

3862
02:16:22,310 --> 02:16:19,199
don't see any of that

3863
02:16:24,470 --> 02:16:22,320
so i was confused about what bob was

3864
02:16:25,430 --> 02:16:24,480
talking about but you're saying that

3865
02:16:28,550 --> 02:16:25,440
directly bob

3866
02:16:30,550 --> 02:16:28,560
says i i saw the original photograph and

3867
02:16:32,469 --> 02:16:30,560
my second question is

3868
02:16:34,309 --> 02:16:32,479
you know the triangle with the with the

3869
02:16:37,349 --> 02:16:34,319
lights on it

3870
02:16:38,950 --> 02:16:37,359
was this a photograph that bob did he

3871
02:16:41,190 --> 02:16:38,960
hold it in his hand

3872
02:16:43,429 --> 02:16:41,200
or was this something that was sent

3873
02:16:44,870 --> 02:16:43,439
electronically

3874
02:16:46,950 --> 02:16:44,880
well you'd have to ask him he said

3875
02:16:47,349 --> 02:16:46,960
there's two incidents which indicates to

3876
02:16:49,190 --> 02:16:47,359
me

3877
02:16:50,389 --> 02:16:49,200
he'd have to speak for himself i believe

3878
02:16:52,150 --> 02:16:50,399
that he saw

3879
02:16:54,150 --> 02:16:52,160
both photographs there's two different

3880
02:16:56,230 --> 02:16:54,160
incidents so um

3881
02:16:57,990 --> 02:16:56,240
but the one that the the one that's the

3882
02:17:00,629 --> 02:16:58,000
most controversial one is the one

3883
02:17:01,990 --> 02:17:00,639
where they read this thing on on rogan's

3884
02:17:03,270 --> 02:17:02,000
show is to release this

3885
02:17:05,030 --> 02:17:03,280
the real photograph the one with the

3886
02:17:06,870 --> 02:17:05,040
triangle coming out of the water i

3887
02:17:08,549 --> 02:17:06,880
i believe bob saw that and there was a

3888
02:17:10,549 --> 02:17:08,559
report he could talk to you

3889
02:17:12,389 --> 02:17:10,559
there was a report written about it so

3890
02:17:15,270 --> 02:17:12,399
um but i'm not sure where he

3891
02:17:15,990 --> 02:17:15,280
he said he saw it in in classified

3892
02:17:18,150 --> 02:17:16,000
channels

3893
02:17:19,429 --> 02:17:18,160
and uh he would have to talk about you

3894
02:17:22,950 --> 02:17:19,439
know

3895
02:17:25,349 --> 02:17:22,960
stuff now there was one other uh

3896
02:17:26,070 --> 02:17:25,359
uh story well there was a lot that broke

3897
02:17:29,349 --> 02:17:26,080
this year but

3898
02:17:32,469 --> 02:17:29,359
uh about the jet about the japan

3899
02:17:36,070 --> 02:17:32,479
military authorizing

3900
02:17:39,750 --> 02:17:36,080
their pilots and military to report uap

3901
02:17:42,870 --> 02:17:39,760
activity and that they have now set up

3902
02:17:46,389 --> 02:17:42,880
the the method to do this

3903
02:17:49,750 --> 02:17:46,399
um is this something that uh

3904
02:17:51,750 --> 02:17:49,760
is is working alongside the united

3905
02:17:53,830 --> 02:17:51,760
states military is it the same type of

3906
02:17:56,070 --> 02:17:53,840
protocol that is being set up

3907
02:17:57,990 --> 02:17:56,080
and and what did you think when japan

3908
02:17:59,589 --> 02:17:58,000
announced this

3909
02:18:01,589 --> 02:17:59,599
i i really didn't follow that story but

3910
02:18:02,870 --> 02:18:01,599
i i would say that that's probably

3911
02:18:05,990 --> 02:18:02,880
working with the americans

3912
02:18:06,709 --> 02:18:06,000
in terms of sharing information uh this

3913
02:18:08,549 --> 02:18:06,719
kind of stuff

3914
02:18:10,469 --> 02:18:08,559
but again it's it's at a low level so if

3915
02:18:12,230 --> 02:18:10,479
they're just doing ufo sightings

3916
02:18:14,629 --> 02:18:12,240
there's still going to be a group way up

3917
02:18:15,509 --> 02:18:14,639
above that knows the secrets and how it

3918
02:18:19,429 --> 02:18:15,519
all fits together

3919
02:18:20,950 --> 02:18:19,439
the ttsa stuff or the the atip stuff

3920
02:18:22,469 --> 02:18:20,960
i think it's still going to be sort of

3921
02:18:24,389 --> 02:18:22,479
low level stuff it's

3922
02:18:26,070 --> 02:18:24,399
there's there's many different uh

3923
02:18:29,190 --> 02:18:26,080
programs i believe that that

3924
02:18:30,309 --> 02:18:29,200
and that would just be one so um

3925
02:18:32,389 --> 02:18:30,319
it they're they're they're always going

3926
02:18:33,349 --> 02:18:32,399
to be sharing material but exciting

3927
02:18:34,870 --> 02:18:33,359
stuff is

3928
02:18:37,589 --> 02:18:34,880
is not the critical stuff you want the

3929
02:18:37,990 --> 02:18:37,599
body stuff the the craft stuff that kind

3930
02:18:39,429 --> 02:18:38,000
of stuff

3931
02:18:41,110 --> 02:18:39,439
that's the the real stuff that

3932
02:18:44,549 --> 02:18:41,120
everybody's looking for now now

3933
02:18:45,429 --> 02:18:44,559
in uh another breaking story in 2020 of

3934
02:18:48,870 --> 02:18:45,439
course was

3935
02:18:51,030 --> 02:18:48,880
eric davis um quoted

3936
02:18:51,990 --> 02:18:51,040
in the new york times article down at

3937
02:18:53,589 --> 02:18:52,000
the bottom of the article

3938
02:18:55,110 --> 02:18:53,599
you know you have to get to the juicy

3939
02:18:59,190 --> 02:18:55,120
stuff but

3940
02:19:02,709 --> 02:18:59,200
he says that he

3941
02:19:03,429 --> 02:19:02,719
uh spoke to the senate and announced to

3942
02:19:06,629 --> 02:19:03,439
the senate

3943
02:19:09,589 --> 02:19:06,639
that we have crashed flying

3944
02:19:10,870 --> 02:19:09,599
saucers his words not mine that's a

3945
02:19:14,110 --> 02:19:10,880
pretty dramatic

3946
02:19:15,349 --> 02:19:14,120
statement as opposed to melted

3947
02:19:18,830 --> 02:19:15,359
metamaterial

3948
02:19:20,309 --> 02:19:18,840
you know stuff that's a whole nother

3949
02:19:23,990 --> 02:19:20,319
situation

3950
02:19:27,750 --> 02:19:24,000
do you think eric is speaking

3951
02:19:31,190 --> 02:19:27,760
uh from fact that's a pretty dramatic

3952
02:19:33,270 --> 02:19:31,200
statement to make to the senate isn't it

3953
02:19:35,190 --> 02:19:33,280
uh the the one expression they had is

3954
02:19:37,830 --> 02:19:35,200
air couldn't lie if he tried yeah

3955
02:19:39,349 --> 02:19:37,840
it eric is eric's a really really sharp

3956
02:19:41,270 --> 02:19:39,359
guy and very aggressive

3957
02:19:43,190 --> 02:19:41,280
you take a look at what he had gotten in

3958
02:19:46,150 --> 02:19:43,200
if the wilson document is real

3959
02:19:47,030 --> 02:19:46,160
that was 2002 or whatever i mean that's

3960
02:19:49,349 --> 02:19:47,040
20 years ago

3961
02:19:51,110 --> 02:19:49,359
look what he had then and he's worked

3962
02:19:52,710 --> 02:19:51,120
these he's had intelligence background

3963
02:19:55,110 --> 02:19:52,720
he started

3964
02:19:57,110 --> 02:19:55,120
us air force intelligence in south korea

3965
02:19:58,630 --> 02:19:57,120
and uh he knows how the the the

3966
02:19:59,910 --> 02:19:58,640
situation works he knows how the chain

3967
02:20:02,309 --> 02:19:59,920
of command works

3968
02:20:03,270 --> 02:20:02,319
and uh he even made the statement before

3969
02:20:06,950 --> 02:20:03,280
already

3970
02:20:08,710 --> 02:20:06,960
um the fact that um lazar is a fraud

3971
02:20:09,990 --> 02:20:08,720
and the the material is not even held at

3972
02:20:11,429 --> 02:20:10,000
area 51. so he's

3973
02:20:13,110 --> 02:20:11,439
from time to time he's made these kind

3974
02:20:15,990 --> 02:20:13,120
of very explosive statements

3975
02:20:16,309 --> 02:20:16,000
uh if you were to guess you're probably

3976
02:20:17,990 --> 02:20:16,319
good

3977
02:20:19,910 --> 02:20:18,000
guessing at roswell he's made statements

3978
02:20:21,190 --> 02:20:19,920
like that that indicate yeah it's true

3979
02:20:23,270 --> 02:20:21,200
and that's why i'm saying the important

3980
02:20:24,389 --> 02:20:23,280
thing with the senate is

3981
02:20:26,309 --> 02:20:24,399
not so much that they're doing it but

3982
02:20:27,670 --> 02:20:26,319
they have these high level guys

3983
02:20:30,230 --> 02:20:27,680
who know where the bodies are buried so

3984
02:20:30,790 --> 02:20:30,240
eric davis if it comes back and says oh

3985
02:20:34,070 --> 02:20:30,800
there's no

3986
02:20:35,750 --> 02:20:34,080
into the senate

3987
02:20:38,230 --> 02:20:35,760
and give another briefing and saying

3988
02:20:40,710 --> 02:20:38,240
this is where it is go to these guys

3989
02:20:41,910 --> 02:20:40,720
and and you can't you can't stonewall or

3990
02:20:43,910 --> 02:20:41,920
walk around the senate

3991
02:20:45,590 --> 02:20:43,920
because put off knows what's going on

3992
02:20:47,349 --> 02:20:45,600
davis knows what's going on

3993
02:20:49,190 --> 02:20:47,359
over all these years they've worked

3994
02:20:50,309 --> 02:20:49,200
through you know through nids through

3995
02:20:51,750 --> 02:20:50,319
all these different things

3996
02:20:53,830 --> 02:20:51,760
they know a lot of stuff that you and i

3997
02:20:56,150 --> 02:20:53,840
don't know and they

3998
02:20:57,349 --> 02:20:56,160
they can support the the senate in

3999
02:20:58,230 --> 02:20:57,359
showing them where to go for the

4000
02:21:00,070 --> 02:20:58,240
material because

4001
02:21:01,990 --> 02:21:00,080
the senate wouldn't know they they have

4002
02:21:04,230 --> 02:21:02,000
no clue where to go where to look

4003
02:21:06,469 --> 02:21:04,240
uh you need someone and they've got the

4004
02:21:06,950 --> 02:21:06,479
people that elizondo same thing if he's

4005
02:21:09,990 --> 02:21:06,960
handled

4006
02:21:11,349 --> 02:21:10,000
uh some sort of off-world material well

4007
02:21:13,110 --> 02:21:11,359
he'll know where he got it from he'll

4008
02:21:14,389 --> 02:21:13,120
know where it's being stored

4009
02:21:16,469 --> 02:21:14,399
and they can't tell you an eye because

4010
02:21:18,150 --> 02:21:16,479
it's classified but they can tell

4011
02:21:19,349 --> 02:21:18,160
under classification to the senate

4012
02:21:19,990 --> 02:21:19,359
intelligence committee i think it's

4013
02:21:24,550 --> 02:21:20,000
pretty

4014
02:21:26,309 --> 02:21:24,560
senate intelligence committee pushes

4015
02:21:27,910 --> 02:21:26,319
they've got to want to get this thing

4016
02:21:29,429 --> 02:21:27,920
but they've got the the background of

4017
02:21:29,910 --> 02:21:29,439
the people who know where the stuff is

4018
02:21:31,910 --> 02:21:29,920
and that's

4019
02:21:33,270 --> 02:21:31,920
that's half the battle of knowing where

4020
02:21:34,710 --> 02:21:33,280
they're hiding the material and where

4021
02:21:37,750 --> 02:21:34,720
they're hiding the documents

4022
02:21:41,270 --> 02:21:37,760
well it's it's one thing to say

4023
02:21:43,429 --> 02:21:41,280
uh that i i said this to the senate

4024
02:21:44,710 --> 02:21:43,439
that we have crashed flying saucers that

4025
02:21:46,309 --> 02:21:44,720
could be

4026
02:21:48,790 --> 02:21:46,319
you don't know if that event actually

4027
02:21:49,590 --> 02:21:48,800
happened or not but what i'm surprised

4028
02:21:51,510 --> 02:21:49,600
about

4029
02:21:54,230 --> 02:21:51,520
that is one of the most explosive

4030
02:21:56,870 --> 02:21:54,240
statements uh that you can make anywhere

4031
02:21:57,750 --> 02:21:56,880
in public that is in that new york times

4032
02:22:01,110 --> 02:21:57,760
article

4033
02:22:02,309 --> 02:22:01,120
with zero follow-up no other reporters

4034
02:22:04,630 --> 02:22:02,319
uh picked up on that

4035
02:22:05,910 --> 02:22:04,640
nobody else followed up on it nobody

4036
02:22:07,910 --> 02:22:05,920
went to the senate

4037
02:22:09,349 --> 02:22:07,920
to say hey wait a minute the new york

4038
02:22:11,270 --> 02:22:09,359
times says

4039
02:22:12,630 --> 02:22:11,280
and there's a quote here from this

4040
02:22:15,670 --> 02:22:12,640
doctor

4041
02:22:17,990 --> 02:22:15,680
that he told you about we are in

4042
02:22:20,870 --> 02:22:18,000
possession of crash flying saucers

4043
02:22:21,270 --> 02:22:20,880
what's going on here what's the story it

4044
02:22:28,950 --> 02:22:21,280
it

4045
02:22:29,590 --> 02:22:28,960
that's that's your story right where's

4046
02:22:32,150 --> 02:22:29,600
tucker

4047
02:22:32,790 --> 02:22:32,160
carlson with this where's anybody else

4048
02:22:34,870 --> 02:22:32,800
nobody

4049
02:22:36,150 --> 02:22:34,880
followed up on that from the new york

4050
02:22:37,910 --> 02:22:36,160
times

4051
02:22:39,670 --> 02:22:37,920
well tucker actually was told i think

4052
02:22:41,830 --> 02:22:39,680
louis lozando admitted that there was

4053
02:22:42,870 --> 02:22:41,840
crash material on on tucker carlson's

4054
02:22:45,910 --> 02:22:42,880
show no crash

4055
02:22:47,429 --> 02:22:45,920
material and crash flying saucers are

4056
02:22:49,510 --> 02:22:47,439
two different things

4057
02:22:52,070 --> 02:22:49,520
yeah okay but still you he's they're

4058
02:22:53,670 --> 02:22:52,080
they're hinting at this stuff is there

4059
02:22:55,270 --> 02:22:53,680
what i've found and i don't how many

4060
02:22:57,590 --> 02:22:55,280
reporters you dealt with but

4061
02:22:58,950 --> 02:22:57,600
the problem with reporters is like

4062
02:23:01,190 --> 02:22:58,960
george knapp always says

4063
02:23:03,830 --> 02:23:01,200
it's a steep learning curve that unless

4064
02:23:06,389 --> 02:23:03,840
you're working on this all the time

4065
02:23:08,389 --> 02:23:06,399
there's no chance you you need to it's

4066
02:23:10,550 --> 02:23:08,399
not a big story

4067
02:23:12,150 --> 02:23:10,560
in newspaper circles you may have

4068
02:23:13,910 --> 02:23:12,160
editors who really don't like the thing

4069
02:23:15,429 --> 02:23:13,920
billy cox used to tell me his editor

4070
02:23:17,510 --> 02:23:15,439
just tolerates what he does

4071
02:23:18,950 --> 02:23:17,520
and and so you you have to put somebody

4072
02:23:21,270 --> 02:23:18,960
on it to

4073
02:23:21,990 --> 02:23:21,280
to push because fox has got the money

4074
02:23:23,830 --> 02:23:22,000
they got the

4075
02:23:26,230 --> 02:23:23,840
the talent and stuff like that uh

4076
02:23:28,070 --> 02:23:26,240
washington post we had the story

4077
02:23:30,230 --> 02:23:28,080
uh new york times you mentioned like

4078
02:23:31,270 --> 02:23:30,240
they they knew that there was this crash

4079
02:23:32,710 --> 02:23:31,280
material

4080
02:23:34,389 --> 02:23:32,720
and yet you're going to get the editor

4081
02:23:35,670 --> 02:23:34,399
we need the absolute material or

4082
02:23:37,590 --> 02:23:35,680
whatever and you run up against these

4083
02:23:39,990 --> 02:23:37,600
roadblocks

4084
02:23:40,630 --> 02:23:40,000
yeah the media has fallen down on the

4085
02:23:42,469 --> 02:23:40,640
job

4086
02:23:44,710 --> 02:23:42,479
but my experience with media over the

4087
02:23:45,190 --> 02:23:44,720
years is there aren't many media guys

4088
02:23:47,510 --> 02:23:45,200
who have

4089
02:23:48,230 --> 02:23:47,520
even a clue of what's going on leslie

4090
02:23:50,790 --> 02:23:48,240
kane

4091
02:23:51,270 --> 02:23:50,800
uh the guy from the new york uh green

4092
02:23:53,429 --> 02:23:51,280
street

4093
02:23:54,790 --> 02:23:53,439
from the new york post and people like

4094
02:23:56,230 --> 02:23:54,800
that but there's not that many people

4095
02:23:58,230 --> 02:23:56,240
who are actually working on the story

4096
02:24:00,389 --> 02:23:58,240
everybody's into the trump thing that's

4097
02:24:02,389 --> 02:24:00,399
that's easy news that's easy

4098
02:24:04,309 --> 02:24:02,399
you know clicks and stuff like that that

4099
02:24:05,349 --> 02:24:04,319
this is a real tough story to get to the

4100
02:24:07,270 --> 02:24:05,359
bottom of and

4101
02:24:09,110 --> 02:24:07,280
uh there's not that many reporters

4102
02:24:09,910 --> 02:24:09,120
working on it yeah well the gift is

4103
02:24:13,670 --> 02:24:09,920
there

4104
02:24:17,349 --> 02:24:13,680
know why

4105
02:24:19,270 --> 02:24:17,359
uh ralph blumenthal or or leslie kane or

4106
02:24:22,389 --> 02:24:19,280
tucker carlson didn't

4107
02:24:25,349 --> 02:24:22,399
immediately go to dr eric davis

4108
02:24:26,870 --> 02:24:25,359
and and confirm the quote was he

4109
02:24:29,910 --> 02:24:26,880
misquoted was there

4110
02:24:32,710 --> 02:24:29,920
something funky about the quote here do

4111
02:24:34,630 --> 02:24:32,720
we have crash flying saucers or are you

4112
02:24:37,510 --> 02:24:34,640
talking about something else

4113
02:24:40,070 --> 02:24:37,520
and who did you speak to at the senate

4114
02:24:42,469 --> 02:24:40,080
about this and reveal this too

4115
02:24:43,349 --> 02:24:42,479
i mean the gift is there the headline is

4116
02:24:45,349 --> 02:24:43,359
there

4117
02:24:46,469 --> 02:24:45,359
it's a it's a good thing yeah i mean i i

4118
02:24:48,550 --> 02:24:46,479
agree with you i mean it's

4119
02:24:49,670 --> 02:24:48,560
uh the story but the ufo story to me was

4120
02:24:51,349 --> 02:24:49,680
always the same thing

4121
02:24:52,710 --> 02:24:51,359
like why don't people go after the ufo

4122
02:24:55,110 --> 02:24:52,720
story because you know

4123
02:24:56,710 --> 02:24:55,120
the with the different witnesses and the

4124
02:25:00,710 --> 02:24:56,720
military even the nimitz

4125
02:25:03,750 --> 02:25:00,720
that uh it sort of hit the story um

4126
02:25:05,429 --> 02:25:03,760
and and it i i can give you an example

4127
02:25:07,429 --> 02:25:05,439
you know angela joyner have you had her

4128
02:25:08,950 --> 02:25:07,439
on your show no i have not but i know

4129
02:25:10,710 --> 02:25:08,960
who she is yes

4130
02:25:13,110 --> 02:25:10,720
so she actually lost her job because of

4131
02:25:15,030 --> 02:25:13,120
doing the stevensville uh texas story

4132
02:25:17,590 --> 02:25:15,040
and she told me the story she said well

4133
02:25:20,070 --> 02:25:17,600
no i wasn't fired i was sort of just

4134
02:25:21,590 --> 02:25:20,080
uh we agreed to let go and i and they

4135
02:25:22,070 --> 02:25:21,600
brought her into the office and she had

4136
02:25:25,670 --> 02:25:22,080
her

4137
02:25:26,870 --> 02:25:25,680
angela when they do that in canada

4138
02:25:28,630 --> 02:25:26,880
that's that's being fired

4139
02:25:30,870 --> 02:25:28,640
and and basically what they had said to

4140
02:25:33,750 --> 02:25:30,880
her because the first day they had huge

4141
02:25:35,270 --> 02:25:33,760
hits in this in the the the story second

4142
02:25:37,030 --> 02:25:35,280
day huge hits again and

4143
02:25:38,710 --> 02:25:37,040
sold more newspapers ever sold before

4144
02:25:40,309 --> 02:25:38,720
and then it started to drop off

4145
02:25:42,150 --> 02:25:40,319
and the people kept phoning and then

4146
02:25:43,190 --> 02:25:42,160
they said to her okay angela you've got

4147
02:25:44,790 --> 02:25:43,200
another story you gotta do the front

4148
02:25:46,309 --> 02:25:44,800
page story you gotta do the court story

4149
02:25:48,070 --> 02:25:46,319
and there's a third story should i do

4150
02:25:49,510 --> 02:25:48,080
we can't keep doing your work leave the

4151
02:25:51,190 --> 02:25:49,520
ufo thing alone she said

4152
02:25:52,550 --> 02:25:51,200
they're phoning they keep phoning what

4153
02:25:53,670 --> 02:25:52,560
do you want me to do and they said

4154
02:25:56,150 --> 02:25:53,680
ignore them

4155
02:25:57,190 --> 02:25:56,160
and she then she ended up losing her job

4156
02:26:00,550 --> 02:25:57,200
over this whole thing

4157
02:26:01,030 --> 02:26:00,560
and a lot of editors are just not a big

4158
02:26:02,550 --> 02:26:01,040
story

4159
02:26:04,070 --> 02:26:02,560
like our friends and relatives you

4160
02:26:05,590 --> 02:26:04,080
figure like why would my friends and

4161
02:26:06,790 --> 02:26:05,600
relatives not be interested in me

4162
02:26:08,389 --> 02:26:06,800
talking about ufos

4163
02:26:09,830 --> 02:26:08,399
and they'll tolerate it but they just go

4164
02:26:11,349 --> 02:26:09,840
like yeah okay whatever grant's in the

4165
02:26:13,429 --> 02:26:11,359
ufos i'm really not that

4166
02:26:14,710 --> 02:26:13,439
that keen or interested it is the it is

4167
02:26:16,790 --> 02:26:14,720
the i always say

4168
02:26:18,469 --> 02:26:16,800
if you understand what's going on this

4169
02:26:21,830 --> 02:26:18,479
is the super bowl of all stories

4170
02:26:23,429 --> 02:26:21,840
it absolutely is the uh oh

4171
02:26:24,870 --> 02:26:23,439
i i need to take a break right here

4172
02:26:27,349 --> 02:26:24,880
grant i want to keep you over for

4173
02:26:27,910 --> 02:26:27,359
overtime because i want to talk about uh

4174
02:26:30,150 --> 02:26:27,920
uh

4175
02:26:31,429 --> 02:26:30,160
we have one segment left about

4176
02:26:35,190 --> 02:26:31,439
disclosure in

4177
02:26:38,070 --> 02:26:35,200
in 2021 and and what we can

4178
02:26:40,550 --> 02:26:38,080
expect there so uh you want to hang on

4179
02:26:42,070 --> 02:26:40,560
and do some overtime with us

4180
02:26:43,990 --> 02:26:42,080
our guest tonight the one and only grant

4181
02:26:46,389 --> 02:26:44,000
cameron and this is

4182
02:26:47,510 --> 02:26:46,399
uh well one one follow-up before we hit

4183
02:26:50,710 --> 02:26:47,520
the break

4184
02:26:53,349 --> 02:26:50,720
um we just like

4185
02:26:54,550 --> 02:26:53,359
larry king right now we have tucker

4186
02:26:57,190 --> 02:26:54,560
carlson

4187
02:26:58,230 --> 02:26:57,200
do you expect tucker to keep his foot on

4188
02:27:02,389 --> 02:26:58,240
the gas

4189
02:27:04,630 --> 02:27:02,399
moving forward if there isn't a ttsa

4190
02:27:05,590 --> 02:27:04,640
and their uh pr department and their

4191
02:27:07,910 --> 02:27:05,600
marketing

4192
02:27:08,950 --> 02:27:07,920
to push this forward is is tucker going

4193
02:27:13,670 --> 02:27:08,960
to still be

4194
02:27:15,750 --> 02:27:13,680
with the ufo community in 2021

4195
02:27:17,190 --> 02:27:15,760
i think it might actually be beneficial

4196
02:27:18,950 --> 02:27:17,200
that he can't

4197
02:27:20,469 --> 02:27:18,960
put pressure on trump because he's

4198
02:27:22,389 --> 02:27:20,479
pro-trump but

4199
02:27:24,230 --> 02:27:22,399
the biden he can put the heat on biden

4200
02:27:25,750 --> 02:27:24,240
okay we want this we want to answer

4201
02:27:27,590 --> 02:27:25,760
demand answers and stuff like that it

4202
02:27:30,790 --> 02:27:27,600
may actually be an advantage to have

4203
02:27:34,710 --> 02:27:30,800
the other party in power now i just

4204
02:27:38,870 --> 02:27:34,720
went over to the debrief and their lead

4205
02:27:41,510 --> 02:27:38,880
story is the uap task force to provide

4206
02:27:43,270 --> 02:27:41,520
report to senate intelligence committee

4207
02:27:46,550 --> 02:27:43,280
this is from ryan sprague

4208
02:27:50,389 --> 02:27:46,560
and i had ryan on the show last week

4209
02:27:52,790 --> 02:27:50,399
um how much of this report

4210
02:27:57,429 --> 02:27:52,800
is actually going to go public if you if

4211
02:28:02,469 --> 02:28:01,190
um well i don't know it's um

4212
02:28:04,070 --> 02:28:02,479
it's gonna be a lot more than we have

4213
02:28:04,550 --> 02:28:04,080
now that's for sure i mean there's going

4214
02:28:08,150 --> 02:28:04,560
to be

4215
02:28:09,670 --> 02:28:08,160
uh um maybe another couple of sightings

4216
02:28:10,790 --> 02:28:09,680
that they talk about the classified

4217
02:28:12,710 --> 02:28:10,800
stuff i don't think you're gonna see the

4218
02:28:15,590 --> 02:28:12,720
hardware stuff or anything like that

4219
02:28:16,870 --> 02:28:15,600
i think that'll all be it'll be the sort

4220
02:28:18,550 --> 02:28:16,880
of the thing they're doing now where

4221
02:28:19,990 --> 02:28:18,560
while we're gonna allow navy pilots and

4222
02:28:21,270 --> 02:28:20,000
we found out about this navy palette

4223
02:28:22,790 --> 02:28:21,280
this sighting or whatever

4224
02:28:24,150 --> 02:28:22,800
and we have some history of sightings

4225
02:28:26,150 --> 02:28:24,160
and stuff i don't think it's gonna be

4226
02:28:28,230 --> 02:28:26,160
major but it's more than what we've got

4227
02:28:29,990 --> 02:28:28,240
and the pressure's on that's what lou

4228
02:28:32,870 --> 02:28:30,000
alzando i think his job is

4229
02:28:34,790 --> 02:28:32,880
is to keep the pressure on him and melon

4230
02:28:36,469 --> 02:28:34,800
and keep forcing the issue and moving it

4231
02:28:37,990 --> 02:28:36,479
deeper and deeper and getting more and

4232
02:28:39,190 --> 02:28:38,000
more disclosure because there's various

4233
02:28:40,630 --> 02:28:39,200
levels of disclosure

4234
02:28:42,230 --> 02:28:40,640
there's disclosure of just you know

4235
02:28:42,550 --> 02:28:42,240
we're doing a report and then there's

4236
02:28:44,790 --> 02:28:42,560
this

4237
02:28:46,550 --> 02:28:44,800
disclosure of where are these aliens

4238
02:28:47,270 --> 02:28:46,560
from why are they here and what might be

4239
02:28:48,469 --> 02:28:47,280
the message

4240
02:28:49,670 --> 02:28:48,479
there's all these different levels of

4241
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disclosure so you're not going to get

4242
02:28:53,510 --> 02:28:50,800
the big disclosure

4243
02:28:54,150 --> 02:28:53,520
but you are going to get some sort of

4244
02:28:56,070 --> 02:28:54,160
navy

4245
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admission that this stuff has been going

4246
02:28:59,670 --> 02:28:57,680
on or how many sightings there are and

4247
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stuff like that but

4248
02:29:03,030 --> 02:29:01,120
none of the big stuff i don't think not

4249
02:29:04,389 --> 02:29:03,040
not right away let's take our break

4250
02:29:06,630 --> 02:29:04,399
right here our guest tonight grant

4251
02:29:07,270 --> 02:29:06,640
cameron live from canada it's our second

4252
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to last

4253
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show for 2020 i am your host jimmy

4254
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church again

4255
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grant's website is presidential ufo.com

4256
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the links are over at

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jimmychurchradio.com

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and you can also follow grant on twitter

4259
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at grant cameron

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we've got everything up in our twitter

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on the game changer network and kgra

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welcome back fade to black our guest

4376
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tonight grant cameron i can't believe it

4377
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we are

4378
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at the end of 2020.

4379
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it's fully in our rear view mirrors

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we're looking straight ahead at 2021

4381
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great conversation tonight with grant

4382
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and we are heading into overtime

4383
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and grant i'm just going to go straight

4384
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there i'm going to go straight to the

4385
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question is

4386
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2021 finally the year of disclosure

4387
02:34:52,070 --> 02:34:51,040
no no it's disclosure i still think it's

4388
02:34:54,389 --> 02:34:52,080
a long way off

4389
02:34:55,990 --> 02:34:54,399
again it comes down to what's your

4390
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definition of disclosure

4391
02:35:00,950 --> 02:34:58,720
if your definition is uh we've got

4392
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aliens coming from a certain planet

4393
02:35:05,910 --> 02:35:04,000
uh we are flying flying saucers to mars

4394
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we've got an underground base

4395
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none of that's going to happen because

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they may not have it

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02:35:15,750 --> 02:35:14,240
year

4400
02:35:18,070 --> 02:35:15,760
you're gonna get that kind of stuff they

4401
02:35:19,670 --> 02:35:18,080
are leaking stuff into hollywood

4402
02:35:21,910 --> 02:35:19,680
uh you're gonna see that tape i've

4403
02:35:24,950 --> 02:35:21,920
provided it to one of the shows

4404
02:35:26,550 --> 02:35:24,960
uh the tape of the uh the intuitive and

4405
02:35:28,389 --> 02:35:26,560
kit green you're going to see some of

4406
02:35:28,790 --> 02:35:28,399
that stuff coming out but it's going to

4407
02:35:31,429 --> 02:35:28,800
be just

4408
02:35:33,910 --> 02:35:31,439
more of um you may get some of the

4409
02:35:35,510 --> 02:35:33,920
hardware stuff you may get

4410
02:35:37,270 --> 02:35:35,520
a chance that they're going to confirm

4411
02:35:40,630 --> 02:35:37,280
yet we have

4412
02:35:41,830 --> 02:35:40,640
some hardware because if you get um eric

4413
02:35:43,750 --> 02:35:41,840
davis talking about it

4414
02:35:45,190 --> 02:35:43,760
and if you get louis alexander talking

4415
02:35:48,070 --> 02:35:45,200
publicly about it

4416
02:35:49,910 --> 02:35:48,080
then um we we we've got to be pretty

4417
02:35:51,429 --> 02:35:49,920
close to some sort of admission that

4418
02:35:54,550 --> 02:35:51,439
yeah we do have that kind of stuff

4419
02:35:58,230 --> 02:35:54,560
how is the new biden administration

4420
02:35:59,750 --> 02:35:58,240
going to approach the subject uh from

4421
02:36:01,830 --> 02:35:59,760
uh you know the outgoing trump

4422
02:36:03,429 --> 02:36:01,840
administration

4423
02:36:05,110 --> 02:36:03,439
uh i could tell you how biden did it in

4424
02:36:08,309 --> 02:36:05,120
the past not

4425
02:36:09,030 --> 02:36:08,319
great there was in 2000 and if you

4426
02:36:12,630 --> 02:36:09,040
remember the

4427
02:36:14,550 --> 02:36:12,640
uh the kucinich 2007 debate

4428
02:36:16,550 --> 02:36:14,560
where kucinich gets asked the question

4429
02:36:17,270 --> 02:36:16,560
about did you see a ufo and hear a voice

4430
02:36:19,590 --> 02:36:17,280
in your head and

4431
02:36:23,710 --> 02:36:19,600
and his career is his thing is basically

4432
02:36:27,349 --> 02:36:25,190
mfmbc

4433
02:36:29,110 --> 02:36:27,359
uh did interviews after and they

4434
02:36:32,070 --> 02:36:29,120
actually talked to

4435
02:36:33,429 --> 02:36:32,080
uh richardson and they talked to a bunch

4436
02:36:34,870 --> 02:36:33,439
of people that were in the debate

4437
02:36:36,309 --> 02:36:34,880
and that's when they asked biden they

4438
02:36:37,110 --> 02:36:36,319
said well what do you think about this

4439
02:36:40,630 --> 02:36:37,120
ufo thing

4440
02:36:43,030 --> 02:36:40,640
and biden said ufos are you kidding me

4441
02:36:44,550 --> 02:36:43,040
he was really sarcastic about it i think

4442
02:36:45,910 --> 02:36:44,560
it's behind the scenes stuff

4443
02:36:47,910 --> 02:36:45,920
that if melon gets in there there's

4444
02:36:51,349 --> 02:36:47,920
going to be some pressure and

4445
02:36:52,870 --> 02:36:51,359
particularly the main guy will be

4446
02:36:55,030 --> 02:36:52,880
john podesta and i've asked and nobody

4447
02:36:56,710 --> 02:36:55,040
knows if john podesta's involved

4448
02:36:58,550 --> 02:36:56,720
but i can guarantee you john podesta

4449
02:37:01,590 --> 02:36:58,560
will be in there with both feet

4450
02:37:03,670 --> 02:37:01,600
pushing hard to move the disclosure

4451
02:37:05,349 --> 02:37:03,680
because i maintain that this disclosure

4452
02:37:08,389 --> 02:37:05,359
that's happening now the new york times

4453
02:37:11,429 --> 02:37:08,399
the ttsa all that started under

4454
02:37:14,230 --> 02:37:11,439
uh john podesta and hillary clinton back

4455
02:37:15,270 --> 02:37:14,240
in 2015 and it just fell apart because

4456
02:37:17,030 --> 02:37:15,280
they didn't get elected

4457
02:37:18,630 --> 02:37:17,040
but now he's back in power and i'm sure

4458
02:37:20,870 --> 02:37:18,640
he's going to be he knows

4459
02:37:22,870 --> 02:37:20,880
if if obama did go and get the documents

4460
02:37:25,830 --> 02:37:22,880
or if he he saw what was going on

4461
02:37:27,030 --> 02:37:25,840
pedestal knows and he's it's his

4462
02:37:29,429 --> 02:37:27,040
lifelong dream

4463
02:37:31,110 --> 02:37:29,439
he wants disclosure and he's going to be

4464
02:37:32,790 --> 02:37:31,120
pushing to get out as much

4465
02:37:34,469 --> 02:37:32,800
he says i believe the people can handle

4466
02:37:36,469 --> 02:37:34,479
the truth and

4467
02:37:38,710 --> 02:37:36,479
he's going to be pushing so it's him and

4468
02:37:39,750 --> 02:37:38,720
melon that'll be the people behind

4469
02:37:43,990 --> 02:37:39,760
that'll do it not so much

4470
02:37:46,469 --> 02:37:44,000
trump or the vice president it'll be um

4471
02:37:47,590 --> 02:37:46,479
podesta and people in the background now

4472
02:37:51,270 --> 02:37:47,600
even though melon

4473
02:37:55,030 --> 02:37:51,280
and his family and uh

4474
02:37:56,469 --> 02:37:55,040
uh their their history and it's strong

4475
02:37:58,230 --> 02:37:56,479
you have all of that of course you know

4476
02:38:00,950 --> 02:37:58,240
the melon bank and and

4477
02:38:02,309 --> 02:38:00,960
and and all that is tied to chris mellon

4478
02:38:05,990 --> 02:38:02,319
but he's now

4479
02:38:08,630 --> 02:38:06,000
the the ufo guy is he

4480
02:38:09,830 --> 02:38:08,640
is he untouchable in washington or do

4481
02:38:12,830 --> 02:38:09,840
you see him

4482
02:38:14,309 --> 02:38:12,840
uh playing a part in the new

4483
02:38:16,950 --> 02:38:14,319
administration

4484
02:38:18,550 --> 02:38:16,960
it may it may not be a an official role

4485
02:38:20,309 --> 02:38:18,560
but in behind the scenes

4486
02:38:21,830 --> 02:38:20,319
he'll be moving the same as they've done

4487
02:38:24,469 --> 02:38:21,840
now i mean they're they're not

4488
02:38:26,469 --> 02:38:24,479
openly describing the briefings that

4489
02:38:27,910 --> 02:38:26,479
they're giving to congress it's all done

4490
02:38:28,630 --> 02:38:27,920
sort of behind the scenes you hear

4491
02:38:30,630 --> 02:38:28,640
rumors

4492
02:38:32,630 --> 02:38:30,640
they're talking to these guys they know

4493
02:38:34,389 --> 02:38:32,640
you know which strings to pull

4494
02:38:35,990 --> 02:38:34,399
which people to push who knows what's

4495
02:38:37,510 --> 02:38:36,000
going on i think it's going to be a

4496
02:38:38,950 --> 02:38:37,520
background operation it's not going to

4497
02:38:39,830 --> 02:38:38,960
be a direct thing where

4498
02:38:41,110 --> 02:38:39,840
they're going to be doing news

4499
02:38:42,389 --> 02:38:41,120
conferences and stuff it's going to be

4500
02:38:44,550 --> 02:38:42,399
in in behind the scenes

4501
02:38:45,830 --> 02:38:44,560
that they know they've already got the

4502
02:38:48,230 --> 02:38:45,840
senate on board

4503
02:38:49,830 --> 02:38:48,240
uh they they've got some money now and

4504
02:38:51,429 --> 02:38:49,840
uh you're going to see this this push

4505
02:38:53,830 --> 02:38:51,439
from the inside

4506
02:38:54,790 --> 02:38:53,840
uh and so provided they get the the

4507
02:38:57,349 --> 02:38:54,800
green light from

4508
02:38:58,230 --> 02:38:57,359
from biden to do it and i can't see why

4509
02:39:01,190 --> 02:38:58,240
he would uh

4510
02:39:01,670 --> 02:39:01,200
object although uh bush held its secret

4511
02:39:03,349 --> 02:39:01,680
uh

4512
02:39:05,670 --> 02:39:03,359
obama held its secret there must be

4513
02:39:06,630 --> 02:39:05,680
something there that makes a president

4514
02:39:09,349 --> 02:39:06,640
think twice because

4515
02:39:11,349 --> 02:39:09,359
i've pointed out and now it would be 15

4516
02:39:13,910 --> 02:39:11,359
this is the 15th administration

4517
02:39:14,550 --> 02:39:13,920
that has handled the ufo issue since the

4518
02:39:16,710 --> 02:39:14,560
uh

4519
02:39:17,910 --> 02:39:16,720
since roosevelt and every single

4520
02:39:20,070 --> 02:39:17,920
administration has done

4521
02:39:21,990 --> 02:39:20,080
exactly the same thing which would tend

4522
02:39:23,190 --> 02:39:22,000
to indicate there's something deep down

4523
02:39:25,750 --> 02:39:23,200
in this secret

4524
02:39:26,870 --> 02:39:25,760
that that shakes the president and makes

4525
02:39:28,870 --> 02:39:26,880
him decide

4526
02:39:30,389 --> 02:39:28,880
no i'm not going with it there's got to

4527
02:39:31,270 --> 02:39:30,399
be something that's stopping them from

4528
02:39:34,630 --> 02:39:31,280
disclosing

4529
02:39:36,150 --> 02:39:34,640
because they i it more appears now that

4530
02:39:38,309 --> 02:39:36,160
they all knew the ones that wanted to

4531
02:39:39,670 --> 02:39:38,319
try to find out found out and

4532
02:39:41,110 --> 02:39:39,680
decided no they weren't they weren't

4533
02:39:41,429 --> 02:39:41,120
gonna they weren't gonna go with it that

4534
02:39:44,309 --> 02:39:41,439
they

4535
02:39:45,670 --> 02:39:44,319
that's what i asked i wrote an article

4536
02:39:47,270 --> 02:39:45,680
called the 64 reasons

4537
02:39:48,710 --> 02:39:47,280
they decided not to tell the truth

4538
02:39:49,190 --> 02:39:48,720
because i was just a wonder why jimmy

4539
02:39:52,870 --> 02:39:49,200
carter

4540
02:39:54,389 --> 02:39:52,880
i get elected i'm going to release all

4541
02:39:56,150 --> 02:39:54,399
the ufo files

4542
02:39:58,150 --> 02:39:56,160
except for the ones that are classified

4543
02:39:58,950 --> 02:39:58,160
the government stuff or the military

4544
02:40:02,150 --> 02:39:58,960
stuff

4545
02:40:02,790 --> 02:40:02,160
and he never he never used the word ufo

4546
02:40:04,070 --> 02:40:02,800
once

4547
02:40:05,830 --> 02:40:04,080
when he was in the white house never

4548
02:40:06,389 --> 02:40:05,840
used it when he was president after he

4549
02:40:09,990 --> 02:40:06,399
was president

4550
02:40:12,150 --> 02:40:10,000
word ufo the same as you remember

4551
02:40:13,590 --> 02:40:12,160
gerald ford gerald ford says this is

4552
02:40:14,950 --> 02:40:13,600
terrible not only should we have a

4553
02:40:16,469 --> 02:40:14,960
congressional investigation

4554
02:40:17,910 --> 02:40:16,479
we should bring them under oath and we

4555
02:40:18,630 --> 02:40:17,920
should force them to tell us what's

4556
02:40:21,030 --> 02:40:18,640
going on

4557
02:40:22,870 --> 02:40:21,040
he became president he never used the

4558
02:40:25,110 --> 02:40:22,880
word ufo he never talked about it

4559
02:40:26,950 --> 02:40:25,120
nothing something that the president is

4560
02:40:29,590 --> 02:40:26,960
told makes these guys

4561
02:40:31,030 --> 02:40:29,600
completely sh uh shift maybe it's

4562
02:40:31,910 --> 02:40:31,040
because now it's you're the you're the

4563
02:40:33,990 --> 02:40:31,920
guy that's gonna get

4564
02:40:35,190 --> 02:40:34,000
uh you know take responsibility for all

4565
02:40:36,710 --> 02:40:35,200
the stuff that's happened

4566
02:40:38,710 --> 02:40:36,720
and they just chicken out or whatever it

4567
02:40:40,309 --> 02:40:38,720
is but obama that's why i think the

4568
02:40:42,630 --> 02:40:40,319
obama thing is so important

4569
02:40:44,550 --> 02:40:42,640
that he indicated pretty clearly that he

4570
02:40:46,830 --> 02:40:44,560
had looked and he had found the material

4571
02:40:48,469 --> 02:40:46,840
and he's not going there are you

4572
02:40:51,830 --> 02:40:48,479
surprised that

4573
02:40:53,590 --> 02:40:51,840
uh we keep going back to december 2017

4574
02:40:56,710 --> 02:40:53,600
with the new york times because

4575
02:40:59,110 --> 02:40:56,720
uh it was so significant but we call

4576
02:41:01,269 --> 02:40:59,120
those the days of disclosure and i think

4577
02:41:02,550 --> 02:41:01,279
that we all felt myself included and you

4578
02:41:05,750 --> 02:41:02,560
that we were

4579
02:41:08,469 --> 02:41:05,760
eminent right this was it finally

4580
02:41:09,750 --> 02:41:08,479
we have gotten there three years have

4581
02:41:13,309 --> 02:41:09,760
gone by

4582
02:41:16,389 --> 02:41:13,319
three right it is now uh

4583
02:41:19,510 --> 02:41:16,399
2021 and we didn't

4584
02:41:20,309 --> 02:41:19,520
we've sort of moved it forward and it is

4585
02:41:23,110 --> 02:41:20,319
being

4586
02:41:24,309 --> 02:41:23,120
but no it was never officially the days

4587
02:41:27,269 --> 02:41:24,319
of disclosure

4588
02:41:29,269 --> 02:41:27,279
and here we are one more year right it's

4589
02:41:31,429 --> 02:41:29,279
gonna be one more year

4590
02:41:33,910 --> 02:41:31,439
but again let me point out what if the

4591
02:41:35,670 --> 02:41:33,920
situation is

4592
02:41:37,429 --> 02:41:35,680
that disclosure's taking place what if

4593
02:41:39,990 --> 02:41:37,439
the situation is

4594
02:41:41,110 --> 02:41:40,000
we've got ufo photographs we've got uh

4595
02:41:43,190 --> 02:41:41,120
all sorts of evidence

4596
02:41:44,710 --> 02:41:43,200
but we have no idea how it works we have

4597
02:41:46,070 --> 02:41:44,720
no idea what they are

4598
02:41:47,349 --> 02:41:46,080
are you going to go public if you're the

4599
02:41:47,910 --> 02:41:47,359
president are you going to stand up and

4600
02:41:49,590 --> 02:41:47,920
say

4601
02:41:50,950 --> 02:41:49,600
i'm the most powerful guy in the world

4602
02:41:52,870 --> 02:41:50,960
uh we're the most powerful country in

4603
02:41:53,830 --> 02:41:52,880
the world and we haven't got a clue

4604
02:41:55,670 --> 02:41:53,840
what's going on

4605
02:41:57,110 --> 02:41:55,680
that's that's the whole thing that you

4606
02:41:58,630 --> 02:41:57,120
may have got the disclosure

4607
02:42:01,030 --> 02:41:58,640
is that the reason they're covering it

4608
02:42:01,910 --> 02:42:01,040
up is because they know so little about

4609
02:42:04,870 --> 02:42:01,920
what it is

4610
02:42:05,590 --> 02:42:04,880
and and i point this out uh uh diane

4611
02:42:07,429 --> 02:42:05,600
pasalka

4612
02:42:09,110 --> 02:42:07,439
there's there's different levels of of

4613
02:42:10,870 --> 02:42:09,120
cover-up so there's the government but

4614
02:42:12,950 --> 02:42:10,880
there's also the scientists

4615
02:42:14,389 --> 02:42:12,960
so you you take a look and i say the

4616
02:42:15,429 --> 02:42:14,399
united states the number one rule in the

4617
02:42:17,030 --> 02:42:15,439
united states is

4618
02:42:18,469 --> 02:42:17,040
money number two rules money and the

4619
02:42:19,110 --> 02:42:18,479
most important rule number three is

4620
02:42:21,990 --> 02:42:19,120
money

4621
02:42:23,510 --> 02:42:22,000
and and the the the uh she talked about

4622
02:42:26,630 --> 02:42:23,520
the figure she used the figure

4623
02:42:27,750 --> 02:42:26,640
100 million dollars on the nasdaq i know

4624
02:42:29,990 --> 02:42:27,760
what that is about

4625
02:42:31,750 --> 02:42:30,000
that is about a piece of ufo technology

4626
02:42:32,950 --> 02:42:31,760
that was sold for 100 million dollars

4627
02:42:35,190 --> 02:42:32,960
the company was sold

4628
02:42:36,389 --> 02:42:35,200
there's a lot of money in this so if you

4629
02:42:39,110 --> 02:42:36,399
are uh

4630
02:42:40,150 --> 02:42:39,120
like uh all the guys you see like put

4631
02:42:42,389 --> 02:42:40,160
off has got

4632
02:42:43,510 --> 02:42:42,399
patents nolan's got patents all these

4633
02:42:45,990 --> 02:42:43,520
guys have got patents

4634
02:42:47,030 --> 02:42:46,000
if you are the scientist and you are

4635
02:42:49,429 --> 02:42:47,040
working on this thing

4636
02:42:51,269 --> 02:42:49,439
are you going to put it out so that the

4637
02:42:52,950 --> 02:42:51,279
chinese can suddenly build it

4638
02:42:54,710 --> 02:42:52,960
something and then you've got them like

4639
02:42:55,349 --> 02:42:54,720
huawei make it illegal and national

4640
02:42:56,950 --> 02:42:55,359
security

4641
02:42:58,630 --> 02:42:56,960
to stop them from selling it because you

4642
02:43:00,309 --> 02:42:58,640
put it out on the internet so

4643
02:43:01,590 --> 02:43:00,319
there's a lot of money so you not only

4644
02:43:02,469 --> 02:43:01,600
have the government you have the

4645
02:43:04,230 --> 02:43:02,479
scientists

4646
02:43:06,389 --> 02:43:04,240
they call them like the the cosmic club

4647
02:43:07,349 --> 02:43:06,399
or the the invisibles or whatever and

4648
02:43:09,030 --> 02:43:07,359
they're all sitting in the background

4649
02:43:10,389 --> 02:43:09,040
and saying oh we're top scientists we

4650
02:43:12,150 --> 02:43:10,399
can't come forward or whatever

4651
02:43:13,750 --> 02:43:12,160
believe you me they are sitting in the

4652
02:43:15,590 --> 02:43:13,760
background and they realize

4653
02:43:16,710 --> 02:43:15,600
that there's technology involved and

4654
02:43:17,349 --> 02:43:16,720
they aren't going to give it up either

4655
02:43:19,349 --> 02:43:17,359
because

4656
02:43:20,950 --> 02:43:19,359
there's a lot of money when i heard this

4657
02:43:21,590 --> 02:43:20,960
i heard the 100 million and i always use

4658
02:43:23,670 --> 02:43:21,600
the figure

4659
02:43:25,110 --> 02:43:23,680
a lot of money when she said 100 million

4660
02:43:28,230 --> 02:43:25,120
the figure i heard was right

4661
02:43:31,190 --> 02:43:28,240
it was a hundred million dollars for one

4662
02:43:32,150 --> 02:43:31,200
piece of technology now uh one of the

4663
02:43:34,870 --> 02:43:32,160
things

4664
02:43:36,630 --> 02:43:34,880
that melon got up and spoke about in

4665
02:43:39,990 --> 02:43:36,640
october of 2017

4666
02:43:41,269 --> 02:43:40,000
with the presentation of ttsa and steve

4667
02:43:44,870 --> 02:43:41,279
justice

4668
02:43:47,910 --> 02:43:44,880
was the technology division of ttsa

4669
02:43:51,030 --> 02:43:47,920
and they were going to bring this

4670
02:43:53,510 --> 02:43:51,040
to the world that this was going to

4671
02:43:55,110 --> 02:43:53,520
benefit all of humanity that we couldn't

4672
02:43:57,670 --> 02:43:55,120
keep any of this

4673
02:43:59,349 --> 02:43:57,680
from the public all sounded great the

4674
02:44:02,870 --> 02:43:59,359
investment happened

4675
02:44:04,630 --> 02:44:02,880
uh steve justice just left is that an

4676
02:44:06,550 --> 02:44:04,640
indication that there wasn't

4677
02:44:09,349 --> 02:44:06,560
any progress forward or maybe that

4678
02:44:12,710 --> 02:44:09,359
wasn't even the intention of ttsa

4679
02:44:14,230 --> 02:44:12,720
um and yeah part of part of it was was

4680
02:44:14,790 --> 02:44:14,240
definitely the fact that they had the 50

4681
02:44:18,070 --> 02:44:14,800
million

4682
02:44:19,830 --> 02:44:18,080
dollars that they thought that everybody

4683
02:44:21,990 --> 02:44:19,840
was going to jump all over this

4684
02:44:23,590 --> 02:44:22,000
and uh would have they'd have money come

4685
02:44:24,150 --> 02:44:23,600
and companies offering them stuff and

4686
02:44:26,550 --> 02:44:24,160
like that

4687
02:44:27,349 --> 02:44:26,560
and nothing happened and then they they

4688
02:44:28,710 --> 02:44:27,359
wanted to go for the

4689
02:44:29,990 --> 02:44:28,720
they still needed the money because you

4690
02:44:30,790 --> 02:44:30,000
need a lot of money to build a flying

4691
02:44:32,469 --> 02:44:30,800
saucer

4692
02:44:34,070 --> 02:44:32,479
and that's when i whether they had it

4693
02:44:35,990 --> 02:44:34,080
planned beforehand or whatever

4694
02:44:37,429 --> 02:44:36,000
but they decided uh they would go to

4695
02:44:37,670 --> 02:44:37,439
congress because if you remember back in

4696
02:44:47,910 --> 02:44:37,680
the

4697
02:44:49,750 --> 02:44:47,920
national security

4698
02:44:51,830 --> 02:44:49,760
uh we got to do something no they were

4699
02:44:52,389 --> 02:44:51,840
saying podesta who wrote the forward to

4700
02:44:54,630 --> 02:44:52,399
her book

4701
02:44:56,950 --> 02:44:54,640
and her were saying we should look into

4702
02:44:58,150 --> 02:44:56,960
ufos because it might cause airline

4703
02:45:00,550 --> 02:44:58,160
traffic

4704
02:45:01,830 --> 02:45:00,560
accidents that was the thing and they

4705
02:45:03,510 --> 02:45:01,840
couldn't sell it so everybody said

4706
02:45:04,870 --> 02:45:03,520
who cares i'm not going to run into

4707
02:45:06,710 --> 02:45:04,880
airliners but

4708
02:45:08,230 --> 02:45:06,720
so they changed the scenario and they go

4709
02:45:10,469 --> 02:45:08,240
to this thing that i always say

4710
02:45:12,309 --> 02:45:10,479
is this scenario about the threat that

4711
02:45:14,230 --> 02:45:12,319
they they had to do the threat and and

4712
02:45:15,030 --> 02:45:14,240
they've even said it even john alexander

4713
02:45:16,870 --> 02:45:15,040
stood up and said

4714
02:45:18,630 --> 02:45:16,880
when i did it in the 1980s they did the

4715
02:45:20,230 --> 02:45:18,640
same thing you go in with a threat

4716
02:45:21,750 --> 02:45:20,240
because unless you say there's a threat

4717
02:45:22,950 --> 02:45:21,760
you ain't getting any money that's

4718
02:45:23,750 --> 02:45:22,960
you're talking to the defense they've

4719
02:45:25,990 --> 02:45:23,760
got the money

4720
02:45:27,990 --> 02:45:26,000
you you do the threat thing so when they

4721
02:45:29,190 --> 02:45:28,000
went back again and and they they

4722
02:45:31,030 --> 02:45:29,200
sort of announced that the money was

4723
02:45:32,389 --> 02:45:31,040
coming then i said oh here we go with

4724
02:45:33,030 --> 02:45:32,399
the threat thing now they got to follow

4725
02:45:34,230 --> 02:45:33,040
through on it

4726
02:45:35,910 --> 02:45:34,240
and that's when i posted i don't know if

4727
02:45:37,269 --> 02:45:35,920
you saw my facebook i posted from

4728
02:45:40,150 --> 02:45:37,279
stanton friedman's file

4729
02:45:40,870 --> 02:45:40,160
a 1967 report out of cuba do you know

4730
02:45:43,830 --> 02:45:40,880
about this story

4731
02:45:44,550 --> 02:45:43,840
i saw it i saw your post yeah so so this

4732
02:45:46,309 --> 02:45:44,560
is the thing

4733
02:45:47,670 --> 02:45:46,319
that that if you're gonna decide that

4734
02:45:48,469 --> 02:45:47,680
you're gonna try to take on this

4735
02:45:50,150 --> 02:45:48,479
intelligence

4736
02:45:51,590 --> 02:45:50,160
and you're gonna shoot it down or like

4737
02:45:52,870 --> 02:45:51,600
tom delong says we're gonna swat some

4738
02:45:54,550 --> 02:45:52,880
bugs out of the sky

4739
02:45:56,070 --> 02:45:54,560
and we're gonna you know use nuclear

4740
02:45:57,030 --> 02:45:56,080
weapons or whatever get ready make sure

4741
02:45:58,950 --> 02:45:57,040
your will is

4742
02:46:00,550 --> 02:45:58,960
is done make sure your life insurance is

4743
02:46:01,590 --> 02:46:00,560
paid up because if you saw what happened

4744
02:46:04,070 --> 02:46:01,600
with the cuban thing

4745
02:46:04,950 --> 02:46:04,080
is they they locked on the the back guy

4746
02:46:08,309 --> 02:46:04,960
was picked up by

4747
02:46:11,429 --> 02:46:08,319
an nsa a naval

4748
02:46:13,910 --> 02:46:11,439
unit in uh florida was monitoring the

4749
02:46:15,590 --> 02:46:13,920
the cuban communication the ufo came in

4750
02:46:18,389 --> 02:46:15,600
they told it to back off

4751
02:46:20,070 --> 02:46:18,399
the back guy is is is talking and they

4752
02:46:21,910 --> 02:46:20,080
lock on and they say take it down the

4753
02:46:24,230 --> 02:46:21,920
guy locks on and the back guy goes

4754
02:46:26,389 --> 02:46:24,240
he's gone he's gone the the thing just

4755
02:46:27,990 --> 02:46:26,399
disintegrated and that all went

4756
02:46:29,670 --> 02:46:28,000
to stanton friedman it went to the

4757
02:46:30,230 --> 02:46:29,680
national choir bob proud of the national

4758
02:46:32,070 --> 02:46:30,240
enquirer

4759
02:46:33,670 --> 02:46:32,080
they went they went through the fya they

4760
02:46:36,230 --> 02:46:33,680
tried to force the documents out

4761
02:46:37,429 --> 02:46:36,240
even uh cause which is citizens against

4762
02:46:38,790 --> 02:46:37,439
ufo secrecy

4763
02:46:40,790 --> 02:46:38,800
actually went to the nsa they wrote a

4764
02:46:42,469 --> 02:46:40,800
letter to the nsa and they said

4765
02:46:43,910 --> 02:46:42,479
if you do not tell us what happened with

4766
02:46:44,870 --> 02:46:43,920
the cuban thing we're going to talk to

4767
02:46:47,590 --> 02:46:44,880
the cuban government

4768
02:46:49,110 --> 02:46:47,600
that afternoon two fbi agents were at

4769
02:46:50,710 --> 02:46:49,120
todd zeckel's door

4770
02:46:52,389 --> 02:46:50,720
and scared the living daylights out of

4771
02:46:55,030 --> 02:46:52,399
them this was a serious thing

4772
02:46:56,389 --> 02:46:55,040
and that's the whole thing is we i've

4773
02:46:58,550 --> 02:46:56,399
even heard that the russians

4774
02:46:59,750 --> 02:46:58,560
are told do not engage because you're

4775
02:47:01,349 --> 02:46:59,760
going to lose a lot of planes

4776
02:47:02,870 --> 02:47:01,359
so now we're in this situation where we

4777
02:47:03,990 --> 02:47:02,880
played this threat game we're going to

4778
02:47:05,110 --> 02:47:04,000
take you know we've got to do something

4779
02:47:06,950 --> 02:47:05,120
with these things

4780
02:47:08,309 --> 02:47:06,960
and uh you may have to follow through

4781
02:47:09,990 --> 02:47:08,319
that's why i posted that thing

4782
02:47:11,349 --> 02:47:10,000
is don't be so stupid to think that

4783
02:47:13,510 --> 02:47:11,359
you're gonna you're gonna take this

4784
02:47:14,950 --> 02:47:13,520
this technology is so far ahead of us

4785
02:47:16,710 --> 02:47:14,960
that that there's no way you're gonna

4786
02:47:18,950 --> 02:47:16,720
take this on

4787
02:47:20,309 --> 02:47:18,960
i wanted to talk about the uap task

4788
02:47:24,469 --> 02:47:20,319
force

4789
02:47:28,070 --> 02:47:24,479
really quick is it a situation

4790
02:47:31,269 --> 02:47:28,080
similar to atip and ossap

4791
02:47:33,349 --> 02:47:31,279
in that it's not an official you know

4792
02:47:34,469 --> 02:47:33,359
pentagon situation where they have

4793
02:47:38,309 --> 02:47:34,479
pentagon

4794
02:47:41,830 --> 02:47:38,319
uh office space uh delegated uh

4795
02:47:44,790 --> 02:47:41,840
to this um is this funding

4796
02:47:46,070 --> 02:47:44,800
that is outside it's part of the defense

4797
02:47:48,469 --> 02:47:46,080
budget

4798
02:47:49,190 --> 02:47:48,479
but it's not actually inside of the

4799
02:47:52,630 --> 02:47:49,200
pentagon

4800
02:47:55,110 --> 02:47:52,640
where it is a bigelow private enterprise

4801
02:47:55,670 --> 02:47:55,120
outside that is getting funded what do

4802
02:47:59,590 --> 02:47:55,680
you think

4803
02:48:00,950 --> 02:47:59,600
uh the uap task force ultimately is

4804
02:48:02,710 --> 02:48:00,960
no i think it'll be more i think it'll

4805
02:48:05,349 --> 02:48:02,720
be some sort of official

4806
02:48:07,510 --> 02:48:05,359
uh unit inside the pentagon because

4807
02:48:09,269 --> 02:48:07,520
you've got it they have to do reports to

4808
02:48:10,630 --> 02:48:09,279
congress you have to file all these

4809
02:48:11,269 --> 02:48:10,640
reports so i think it's going to be more

4810
02:48:13,269 --> 02:48:11,279
than just

4811
02:48:14,550 --> 02:48:13,279
a secret operation in the background

4812
02:48:16,070 --> 02:48:14,560
because now it's up front

4813
02:48:17,990 --> 02:48:16,080
and that's what we're hoping is going to

4814
02:48:19,510 --> 02:48:18,000
happen is that the there's going to be

4815
02:48:22,389 --> 02:48:19,520
pressure on congress

4816
02:48:23,269 --> 02:48:22,399
on the senate to produce these reports

4817
02:48:24,950 --> 02:48:23,279
and when it when

4818
02:48:26,309 --> 02:48:24,960
when it doesn't talk about crash

4819
02:48:28,469 --> 02:48:26,319
material and stuff like that

4820
02:48:29,990 --> 02:48:28,479
the pressure's put on to say you got

4821
02:48:32,070 --> 02:48:30,000
snowed go back again

4822
02:48:34,230 --> 02:48:32,080
and keep the pressure on so i i think

4823
02:48:36,070 --> 02:48:34,240
it's it's gonna be much more official

4824
02:48:37,429 --> 02:48:36,080
than the other one which they had to run

4825
02:48:40,389 --> 02:48:37,439
sort of in the background

4826
02:48:40,870 --> 02:48:40,399
now uh and speaking of crash materials

4827
02:48:44,150 --> 02:48:40,880
um

4828
02:48:47,670 --> 02:48:44,160
are you interested in in

4829
02:48:51,510 --> 02:48:47,680
melted globulars of of

4830
02:48:54,070 --> 02:48:51,520
stuff or when we talk about

4831
02:48:55,429 --> 02:48:54,080
crash materials are you interested in

4832
02:48:59,670 --> 02:48:55,439
something physical

4833
02:49:03,429 --> 02:48:59,680
you know like this right

4834
02:49:06,070 --> 02:49:03,439
if this was shown to the public right

4835
02:49:06,790 --> 02:49:06,080
yeah and this is now we've got something

4836
02:49:10,230 --> 02:49:06,800
here

4837
02:49:12,150 --> 02:49:10,240
as opposed to melted stuff

4838
02:49:14,150 --> 02:49:12,160
what interests you are you okay with

4839
02:49:16,710 --> 02:49:14,160
melted stuff

4840
02:49:17,670 --> 02:49:16,720
i i i actually say and and if you look

4841
02:49:20,070 --> 02:49:17,680
at uh

4842
02:49:21,590 --> 02:49:20,080
diane pasulk uh uh when her book the

4843
02:49:22,469 --> 02:49:21,600
american cosmic she talks about this

4844
02:49:24,710 --> 02:49:22,479
tyler d the

4845
02:49:26,150 --> 02:49:24,720
the head nassau guy and when he takes

4846
02:49:26,469 --> 02:49:26,160
her he blindfolds her and takes her to

4847
02:49:29,510 --> 02:49:26,479
this

4848
02:49:30,950 --> 02:49:29,520
crash site in in new mexico takes her

4849
02:49:33,110 --> 02:49:30,960
and gary nolan there

4850
02:49:35,429 --> 02:49:33,120
and he calls it they call it the gifting

4851
02:49:36,469 --> 02:49:35,439
field i say i give a theory called the

4852
02:49:39,590 --> 02:49:36,479
theory of wow

4853
02:49:41,190 --> 02:49:39,600
and basically i say why do you also ufos

4854
02:49:42,790 --> 02:49:41,200
have lights on them so you can see them

4855
02:49:44,710 --> 02:49:42,800
why did they do little zigzags in the

4856
02:49:45,190 --> 02:49:44,720
sky what are they picking up beer or

4857
02:49:46,870 --> 02:49:45,200
what are they

4858
02:49:48,230 --> 02:49:46,880
they're just they're showing off they

4859
02:49:48,870 --> 02:49:48,240
want you to see it they want to get your

4860
02:49:51,349 --> 02:49:48,880
attention

4861
02:49:52,469 --> 02:49:51,359
and the pieces of metal i i even asked i

4862
02:49:53,830 --> 02:49:52,479
was interviewing

4863
02:49:55,990 --> 02:49:53,840
don schmidt and he really didn't answer

4864
02:49:57,429 --> 02:49:56,000
that question but i said don okay so you

4865
02:49:58,630 --> 02:49:57,439
have this thing and he talked about the

4866
02:49:59,190 --> 02:49:58,640
the experiment that was done with the

4867
02:50:01,510 --> 02:49:59,200
metal

4868
02:50:03,269 --> 02:50:01,520
where they shot the 45 caliber gun at

4869
02:50:04,710 --> 02:50:03,279
the metal and it sort of bent back and

4870
02:50:05,349 --> 02:50:04,720
then the the bullet just fell to the

4871
02:50:07,190 --> 02:50:05,359
ground

4872
02:50:09,750 --> 02:50:07,200
or you take a sledgehammer and you can't

4873
02:50:10,950 --> 02:50:09,760
break it and then i say well okay so why

4874
02:50:13,030 --> 02:50:10,960
does the pieces

4875
02:50:14,710 --> 02:50:13,040
that we get when we get a crash why does

4876
02:50:16,469 --> 02:50:14,720
it look like a wine glass that's been

4877
02:50:18,309 --> 02:50:16,479
dropped off the fifth floor of a balcony

4878
02:50:19,910 --> 02:50:18,319
like these little tiny pieces like if if

4879
02:50:21,269 --> 02:50:19,920
you can't break it with a sledgehammer

4880
02:50:22,710 --> 02:50:21,279
why is it breaking these little pieces

4881
02:50:24,790 --> 02:50:22,720
and it may be because they're actually

4882
02:50:26,389 --> 02:50:24,800
just dropping this stuff and and the

4883
02:50:28,150 --> 02:50:26,399
the analogy is like a cat have you ever

4884
02:50:29,110 --> 02:50:28,160
seen a cat when when they got the little

4885
02:50:31,269 --> 02:50:29,120
ball and it's got the

4886
02:50:32,389 --> 02:50:31,279
the uh the catnip in it the cat's

4887
02:50:34,150 --> 02:50:32,399
chasing the ball around

4888
02:50:35,590 --> 02:50:34,160
and then it's it's like it gets it it

4889
02:50:36,469 --> 02:50:35,600
goes ah we got it it's like the nivitz

4890
02:50:38,309 --> 02:50:36,479
we got the photos

4891
02:50:39,750 --> 02:50:38,319
and then it's like oh okay what do we do

4892
02:50:41,190 --> 02:50:39,760
now and then it's like oh let's get the

4893
02:50:41,510 --> 02:50:41,200
next one and then they go chasing after

4894
02:50:45,910 --> 02:50:41,520
the

4895
02:50:49,349 --> 02:50:45,920
metal

4896
02:50:50,630 --> 02:50:49,359
the isotopes are all bad and the cat the

4897
02:50:51,830 --> 02:50:50,640
cat looks up and looks around it's like

4898
02:50:52,630 --> 02:50:51,840
oh what am i going to do now it's like

4899
02:50:53,830 --> 02:50:52,640
what do i do with this

4900
02:50:54,790 --> 02:50:53,840
and they've got the metal they don't

4901
02:50:57,190 --> 02:50:54,800
know what to do with it you're not going

4902
02:50:58,950 --> 02:50:57,200
to build because the isotopes are bad

4903
02:51:00,150 --> 02:50:58,960
all that says is it's not made on earth

4904
02:51:01,429 --> 02:51:00,160
but it doesn't teach you how to build a

4905
02:51:02,710 --> 02:51:01,439
flying saucer so then they say okay

4906
02:51:04,469 --> 02:51:02,720
let's get that piece of the house

4907
02:51:06,230 --> 02:51:04,479
then the house got that meta that piece

4908
02:51:07,110 --> 02:51:06,240
of it's layered and they get that piece

4909
02:51:10,469 --> 02:51:07,120
you're not going to learn

4910
02:51:12,469 --> 02:51:10,479
anything from that kind of stuff

4911
02:51:13,990 --> 02:51:12,479
the back engineer from a piece of craft

4912
02:51:15,990 --> 02:51:14,000
i think the beings are

4913
02:51:17,190 --> 02:51:16,000
just dropping that stuff as

4914
02:51:20,389 --> 02:51:17,200
entertainment it's like throwing

4915
02:51:21,349 --> 02:51:20,399
uh the catnip into a cage with with it

4916
02:51:24,550 --> 02:51:21,359
with a with a

4917
02:51:25,910 --> 02:51:24,560
think they're doing

4918
02:51:27,990 --> 02:51:25,920
and they're get they're actually gifting

4919
02:51:29,429 --> 02:51:28,000
and even the the big crashes

4920
02:51:31,030 --> 02:51:29,439
may actually be gifts where they

4921
02:51:32,870 --> 02:51:31,040
actually crash on purpose

4922
02:51:34,070 --> 02:51:32,880
because then make sense especially the

4923
02:51:36,230 --> 02:51:34,080
idea that little pieces

4924
02:51:37,830 --> 02:51:36,240
that a ufo will fly across the galaxy

4925
02:51:38,070 --> 02:51:37,840
and then little pieces start falling off

4926
02:51:39,590 --> 02:51:38,080
it

4927
02:51:41,429 --> 02:51:39,600
you got to go like something else is

4928
02:51:42,790 --> 02:51:41,439
going on here let's pay attention

4929
02:51:44,710 --> 02:51:42,800
and that's why i've always spent so much

4930
02:51:45,990 --> 02:51:44,720
time with the experiencers the people

4931
02:51:46,870 --> 02:51:46,000
that are interacting with the

4932
02:51:49,030 --> 02:51:46,880
intelligence

4933
02:51:50,469 --> 02:51:49,040
what are we really dealing with and the

4934
02:51:52,309 --> 02:51:50,479
whole idea of consciousness

4935
02:51:53,990 --> 02:51:52,319
that i've got 50 people who have flown

4936
02:51:56,070 --> 02:51:54,000
the craft and they all say

4937
02:51:57,510 --> 02:51:56,080
exactly the same thing unless you've got

4938
02:51:59,269 --> 02:51:57,520
consciousness and put your hand on a

4939
02:52:00,630 --> 02:51:59,279
panel put your hand on a ball

4940
02:52:02,870 --> 02:52:00,640
it ain't going anywhere because it's

4941
02:52:03,990 --> 02:52:02,880
flown with the mind and that's the part

4942
02:52:07,349 --> 02:52:04,000
of the stuff we're missing

4943
02:52:07,910 --> 02:52:07,359
and put off was asked does is tsa

4944
02:52:09,830 --> 02:52:07,920
working on

4945
02:52:11,030 --> 02:52:09,840
unconsciousness he said no as long as

4946
02:52:12,870 --> 02:52:11,040
you're not working on consciousness and

4947
02:52:14,710 --> 02:52:12,880
you're working on this metal stuff

4948
02:52:16,230 --> 02:52:14,720
you aren't get you aren't going anywhere

4949
02:52:19,110 --> 02:52:16,240
and that's what that's what

4950
02:52:21,030 --> 02:52:19,120
uh eric davis said they shut the program

4951
02:52:21,830 --> 02:52:21,040
down in 1889 because they weren't

4952
02:52:23,910 --> 02:52:21,840
getting anywhere

4953
02:52:25,910 --> 02:52:23,920
that's the whole core story hell put off

4954
02:52:28,309 --> 02:52:25,920
kit green and jack ballet get together

4955
02:52:29,830 --> 02:52:28,319
at a ren denny's restaurant in the 1980s

4956
02:52:31,990 --> 02:52:29,840
and say what do we know for sure

4957
02:52:33,590 --> 02:52:32,000
we know we're being visited by something

4958
02:52:34,950 --> 02:52:33,600
we have crash material

4959
02:52:36,309 --> 02:52:34,960
and we're not getting anywhere with it

4960
02:52:37,190 --> 02:52:36,319
that's what's in the wilson document the

4961
02:52:39,030 --> 02:52:37,200
whole idea

4962
02:52:40,950 --> 02:52:39,040
that you aren't going to figure it out

4963
02:52:42,550 --> 02:52:40,960
until you bring in consciousness into it

4964
02:52:44,630 --> 02:52:42,560
until you figure out what the what the

4965
02:52:46,550 --> 02:52:44,640
beings are have the the experiencers

4966
02:52:47,990 --> 02:52:46,560
you can't do it from a piece of metal

4967
02:52:49,830 --> 02:52:48,000
and even with the craft

4968
02:52:51,510 --> 02:52:49,840
where if eric davis is right they shut

4969
02:52:52,630 --> 02:52:51,520
it down and the idea was that every

4970
02:52:53,269 --> 02:52:52,640
seven or eight years they take it off

4971
02:52:54,469 --> 02:52:53,279
the shelf

4972
02:52:56,150 --> 02:52:54,479
and they still can't figure it out they

4973
02:52:57,830 --> 02:52:56,160
put it back on the shelf again and they

4974
02:52:58,230 --> 02:52:57,840
have no clue what's going on they have

4975
02:52:59,990 --> 02:52:58,240
not

4976
02:53:02,469 --> 02:53:00,000
as don smith says they don't have the

4977
02:53:03,990 --> 02:53:02,479
start button on the thing

4978
02:53:05,510 --> 02:53:04,000
all of it is just smoke and mirrors

4979
02:53:06,710 --> 02:53:05,520
because what you need to do you got to

4980
02:53:08,469 --> 02:53:06,720
convince the government

4981
02:53:10,309 --> 02:53:08,479
oh we've got the cure to cancer we're

4982
02:53:11,830 --> 02:53:10,319
only 5 billion dollars away if you give

4983
02:53:13,750 --> 02:53:11,840
us five billion we'll get to cure cancer

4984
02:53:15,429 --> 02:53:13,760
and we'll build this flying saucer

4985
02:53:16,630 --> 02:53:15,439
if you go to the congress and say we

4986
02:53:17,269 --> 02:53:16,640
haven't got a clue what's going on we

4987
02:53:19,590 --> 02:53:17,279
have no

4988
02:53:21,269 --> 02:53:19,600
no nothing at all you're not gonna get

4989
02:53:23,110 --> 02:53:21,279
any money you have to buy them

4990
02:53:24,710 --> 02:53:23,120
that it's a threat number one and number

4991
02:53:26,710 --> 02:53:24,720
two that you can solve the problem

4992
02:53:28,309 --> 02:53:26,720
and so i think a lot of it is bluff that

4993
02:53:30,230 --> 02:53:28,319
they have this stuff i don't think they

4994
02:53:32,550 --> 02:53:30,240
have as much as people think they have

4995
02:53:33,429 --> 02:53:32,560
well and and for you what would you

4996
02:53:36,710 --> 02:53:33,439
accept

4997
02:53:39,190 --> 02:53:36,720
from a state actor uh

4998
02:53:39,910 --> 02:53:39,200
when it comes to disclosure i mean what

4999
02:53:43,349 --> 02:53:39,920
is it

5000
02:53:45,269 --> 02:53:43,359
the community

5001
02:53:46,710 --> 02:53:45,279
they want the president on live

5002
02:53:50,150 --> 02:53:46,720
television right that

5003
02:53:53,190 --> 02:53:50,160
that is disclosure for most

5004
02:53:54,309 --> 02:53:53,200
for you what would you accept well again

5005
02:53:56,309 --> 02:53:54,319
it comes down to what do you mean by

5006
02:53:57,030 --> 02:53:56,319
disclosure so i accept the disclosure

5007
02:53:59,750 --> 02:53:57,040
that the

5008
02:54:01,190 --> 02:53:59,760
uh the pentagon confirmed that yes there

5009
02:54:03,110 --> 02:54:01,200
was an 8-tip program

5010
02:54:04,389 --> 02:54:03,120
and we were right all along because i

5011
02:54:06,469 --> 02:54:04,399
was on a show

5012
02:54:07,750 --> 02:54:06,479
in 2016 and melon was on the same show

5013
02:54:09,269 --> 02:54:07,760
as me he i went

5014
02:54:10,950 --> 02:54:09,279
i was talking about managing magic he

5015
02:54:11,349 --> 02:54:10,960
came on right after me and said i would

5016
02:54:15,269 --> 02:54:11,359
know

5017
02:54:17,110 --> 02:54:15,279
was there i was the top guy

5018
02:54:18,469 --> 02:54:17,120
and then suddenly he's he's the reverse

5019
02:54:21,510 --> 02:54:18,479
he suddenly gets told

5020
02:54:24,309 --> 02:54:21,520
and and and so the fact that the

5021
02:54:25,750 --> 02:54:24,319
that the pentagon admitted that there

5022
02:54:28,230 --> 02:54:25,760
was a ufo program is

5023
02:54:29,910 --> 02:54:28,240
a big disclosure step now the next step

5024
02:54:30,790 --> 02:54:29,920
is to admit that they've got crash

5025
02:54:33,190 --> 02:54:30,800
material

5026
02:54:33,990 --> 02:54:33,200
and then to go to who's actually flying

5027
02:54:37,670 --> 02:54:34,000
it but those are different

5028
02:54:39,030 --> 02:54:37,680
steps so i i take it as steps i i i

5029
02:54:40,950 --> 02:54:39,040
the the ultimate thing would be the

5030
02:54:42,550 --> 02:54:40,960
president to stand up but

5031
02:54:44,070 --> 02:54:42,560
if they don't know what's going on if

5032
02:54:46,230 --> 02:54:44,080
they don't know what these beings are

5033
02:54:47,429 --> 02:54:46,240
or what their their purpose is and they

5034
02:54:48,710 --> 02:54:47,439
don't know how to fly them

5035
02:54:50,389 --> 02:54:48,720
you're not going to get the secretary of

5036
02:54:50,630 --> 02:54:50,399
defense stand up but the president stand

5037
02:54:51,670 --> 02:54:50,640
up

5038
02:54:52,950 --> 02:54:51,680
because the president's going to look

5039
02:54:54,150 --> 02:54:52,960
like a total idiot the president is

5040
02:54:55,349 --> 02:54:54,160
supposed to be the most powerful guy in

5041
02:54:56,710 --> 02:54:55,359
the world who has the answer to

5042
02:54:58,630 --> 02:54:56,720
everything you're not going to stand him

5043
02:55:00,309 --> 02:54:58,640
up and make him look like an idiot

5044
02:55:01,990 --> 02:55:00,319
especially or put your cards down on the

5045
02:55:04,389 --> 02:55:02,000
table so you say okay we got

5046
02:55:05,349 --> 02:55:04,399
this this piece this piece the 20 the

5047
02:55:07,590 --> 02:55:05,359
russians go

5048
02:55:08,550 --> 02:55:07,600
oh thank you we got the other 80 thank

5049
02:55:11,590 --> 02:55:08,560
you for the pieces

5050
02:55:12,790 --> 02:55:11,600
uh and off they go it's like it's a

5051
02:55:14,389 --> 02:55:12,800
bluffing card game

5052
02:55:16,150 --> 02:55:14,399
that people don't have the answers and

5053
02:55:18,070 --> 02:55:16,160
you don't put your cards down because

5054
02:55:19,670 --> 02:55:18,080
everybody else is playing the same game

5055
02:55:21,110 --> 02:55:19,680
and there's so much money and there's so

5056
02:55:23,349 --> 02:55:21,120
much technology involved

5057
02:55:25,349 --> 02:55:23,359
that nobody wants to play this this game

5058
02:55:26,710 --> 02:55:25,359
where you just keep paying your taxes

5059
02:55:29,030 --> 02:55:26,720
we'll take care of it we're the defense

5060
02:55:31,429 --> 02:55:29,040
department we'll take care of you

5061
02:55:32,550 --> 02:55:31,439
this is serious business it's a it's a

5062
02:55:33,269 --> 02:55:32,560
you know we need to get it before the

5063
02:55:34,870 --> 02:55:33,279
russians

5064
02:55:37,349 --> 02:55:34,880
and we don't care if you're interested

5065
02:55:38,870 --> 02:55:37,359
or what what supposedly george bush told

5066
02:55:39,429 --> 02:55:38,880
to jimmy carter during the president

5067
02:55:41,910 --> 02:55:39,439
election

5068
02:55:44,389 --> 02:55:41,920
briefing curiosity on behalf of the

5069
02:55:45,830 --> 02:55:44,399
president is not sufficient need to know

5070
02:55:48,230 --> 02:55:45,840
doesn't matter i don't care if you want

5071
02:55:49,590 --> 02:55:48,240
to know we are we are protecting the

5072
02:55:51,670 --> 02:55:49,600
united states of america

5073
02:55:53,190 --> 02:55:51,680
they believe they're saving the world or

5074
02:55:54,070 --> 02:55:53,200
they're making money from patents or

5075
02:55:56,469 --> 02:55:54,080
whatever it is

5076
02:55:57,990 --> 02:55:56,479
and they've got the power and it's

5077
02:55:59,510 --> 02:55:58,000
almost like an agency where

5078
02:56:01,190 --> 02:55:59,520
you're going to come in and say okay

5079
02:56:02,950 --> 02:56:01,200
we're you got we're doing the job you

5080
02:56:03,910 --> 02:56:02,960
guys are so give up your agency in the

5081
02:56:05,429 --> 02:56:03,920
government it's all about how many

5082
02:56:07,269 --> 02:56:05,439
people work for you how much

5083
02:56:08,710 --> 02:56:07,279
money in your budget nobody's given up

5084
02:56:11,030 --> 02:56:08,720
anything

5085
02:56:13,349 --> 02:56:11,040
what a fantastic conversation tonight

5086
02:56:15,830 --> 02:56:13,359
grant and and just thank you so much

5087
02:56:16,550 --> 02:56:15,840
i i appreciate every time you're on with

5088
02:56:19,269 --> 02:56:16,560
us

5089
02:56:21,030 --> 02:56:19,279
um but i wanted to ask you uh really

5090
02:56:23,750 --> 02:56:21,040
quick i've got two minutes left

5091
02:56:24,550 --> 02:56:23,760
i think earlier in the show you said

5092
02:56:27,590 --> 02:56:24,560
you've got

5093
02:56:30,309 --> 02:56:27,600
a book that you are working on uh for

5094
02:56:30,630 --> 02:56:30,319
2021. can we go back to that really

5095
02:56:34,230 --> 02:56:30,640
quick

5096
02:56:36,950 --> 02:56:34,240
what is it i have a book on

5097
02:56:38,790 --> 02:56:36,960
um psychedelics coming first and then i

5098
02:56:41,269 --> 02:56:38,800
have a book called the alien documents

5099
02:56:43,110 --> 02:56:41,279
and these are documents that were

5100
02:56:44,630 --> 02:56:43,120
given to me over the years people would

5101
02:56:45,830 --> 02:56:44,640
have like i mentioned this this thing

5102
02:56:48,950 --> 02:56:45,840
with ron pandolfi

5103
02:56:49,750 --> 02:56:48,960
with the briefing thing um i have i was

5104
02:56:53,269 --> 02:56:49,760
given the

5105
02:56:55,510 --> 02:56:53,279
uh a pres a draft of a manuscript for an

5106
02:56:57,110 --> 02:56:55,520
eyes only study for president johnson

5107
02:56:59,429 --> 02:56:57,120
i have that i'm going to put some of

5108
02:57:01,590 --> 02:56:59,439
those documents what the conclusion was

5109
02:57:02,550 --> 02:57:01,600
um i of course the wilson document that

5110
02:57:05,190 --> 02:57:02,560
i got

5111
02:57:06,150 --> 02:57:05,200
um i've got uh the john alexander's

5112
02:57:08,389 --> 02:57:06,160
notes

5113
02:57:10,550 --> 02:57:08,399
uh from the guy in the wilson document

5114
02:57:13,510 --> 02:57:10,560
that set up the wilson league thing uh

5115
02:57:14,950 --> 02:57:13,520
uh um oak shannon i've got oak shan's

5116
02:57:16,469 --> 02:57:14,960
notes i'm gonna put all these things

5117
02:57:18,070 --> 02:57:16,479
in a book called the alien documents

5118
02:57:19,349 --> 02:57:18,080
it's just all these documents that

5119
02:57:22,950 --> 02:57:19,359
people haven't seen before

5120
02:57:25,349 --> 02:57:22,960
and that will be released in 2021

5121
02:57:27,990 --> 02:57:25,359
hopefully in 2021 yes thank you so much

5122
02:57:29,030 --> 02:57:28,000
grant uh behave and be well have a great

5123
02:57:31,429 --> 02:57:29,040
new year

5124
02:57:32,389 --> 02:57:31,439
i can't wait to uh uh come back on with

5125
02:57:35,349 --> 02:57:32,399
this but

5126
02:57:37,429 --> 02:57:35,359
let's see how 2021 unfolds it's going to

5127
02:57:40,630 --> 02:57:37,439
be great thank you so much grant

5128
02:57:43,670 --> 02:57:40,640
thank you amazing conversation and with

5129
02:57:46,469 --> 02:57:43,680
that uh not only did we just go

5130
02:57:48,309 --> 02:57:46,479
uh pull the poll with grant cameron but

5131
02:57:49,429 --> 02:57:48,319
i think it is very important for all of

5132
02:57:52,550 --> 02:57:49,439
us to realize

5133
02:57:55,670 --> 02:57:52,560
how everything is compartmentalized

5134
02:57:57,910 --> 02:57:55,680
it uh it's just the way that it is i'm

5135
02:57:58,790 --> 02:57:57,920
not so sure that everybody has all of

5136
02:58:01,110 --> 02:57:58,800
the answers

5137
02:58:02,389 --> 02:58:01,120
when it comes to the ufo question and i

5138
02:58:05,830 --> 02:58:02,399
really want to know

5139
02:58:08,309 --> 02:58:05,840
what the uap task force ultimately is

5140
02:58:10,950 --> 02:58:08,319
for all of us with that i'm going to get

5141
02:58:14,550 --> 02:58:10,960
out of here tomorrow night on the show

5142
02:58:16,469 --> 02:58:14,560
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5143
02:58:20,230 --> 02:58:16,479
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5144
02:58:21,670 --> 02:58:20,240
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5155
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5156
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5157
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5158
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5159
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5160
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5162
02:58:58,309 --> 02:58:56,000
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5163
02:58:59,590 --> 02:58:58,319
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5164
02:59:02,950 --> 02:58:59,600
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5165
02:59:14,370 --> 02:59:02,960
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